STUDresearch · Non-peptide
5-Amino-1MQ
Also known as
5-amino-1-methylquinolinium · 5-amino-1-methylquinolinium iodide · 5-amino-1-methylquinolinium monochloride · 5A1MQ · 5A-1MQ · 5A-M1Q · 5A-1MQ (monochloride salt) · 5-AMQ · 5-AMQ (PK literature) · 5-Amino-1-MQ · 5 amino 1MQ · NNMT inhibitor 5-amino-1MQ · NNMTi 5-amino-1MQ · NNMTi 5A-1MQ
Community talk. May be wrong. Not medical advice. Not a protocol. Not for human or animal use.
Systemic — NNMT / NAD+ and fat-metabolism discussion; adipose, muscle and liver exposure comes from animal work, not spot-fat targeting.
Often 50 mg capsules; once-daily, split and one-to-three-times-daily descriptions coexist. Lower and higher chart variants remain in the full notes.
The 5 mg total appears once daily or as 2.5 mg twice daily. These are separate from the mcg tables.
Reported 12-week tables, sometimes AM/PM splits—not a validated ladder or an oral equivalent.
Half-life & effect duration
- Half-life in the body
- Oral · ratsAbout 6.9 hours
- IV · ratsAbout 3.8 hours
- Felt duration people report
- Early effectsOften subtle; energy reports vary
- Continued oral useChanges after 2–3 weeks in one log; no change after 30 days in another
- MoodMuted affect around week 3 in one account
Tap a line to jump into the full notes. Research only — may be wrong.
Timing context & sources
Half-life in the body
About 6.9 h after oral dosing in rats; the IV mean was about 3.8 h.
The study reported oral 6.90 ± 1.20 h and IV 3.80 ± 1.10 h, with 38.4% oral bioavailability.
Not measured human capsule or SC kinetics. Different routes/species and unresolved salt form prevent a human dose conversion.
- Awosemo et al. — LC-MS/MS rat pharmacokinetics of 5-AMQ (opens in a new tab)Original abstract accessed through Europe PMC core record, PMID 34304009; final PK results paragraph.Rat plasma parent assay. Abstract gives oral/IV half-lives and oral bioavailability but not administered doses or salt form; it does not measure human capsules or SC products.
Felt duration people report
No dependable single-dose benefit duration emerges from the inspected reports.
One oral month-log describes subtle changes after 2–3 weeks and muted affect around week 3; another user reports nothing after 30 days. SC reports range from limited energy to positive co-use impressions or no effect.
These are conflicting self-reports, not PK. Product identity, dose, route, diet and stacks differ; multi-week impressions are not hours of drug action.
- Experience with 5-Amino-1MQ after a month (opens in a new tab)Actual post by Remarkable_Soil_2374 (Dec. 25, 2025), Dosage/Experience/Negatives; comments by Naven71, DiscreetAcct4 and PamelaF3211.Unverified oral capsules, calorie deficit and training. OP describes 2–3-week impressions and week-3 muted affect; Naven71 reports no effect after 30 days. Other commenters use different routes/blends. No isolated single-dose duration.
- Looking for real-world experiences and data on 5-Amino-1MQ (opens in a new tab)Actual comments by Theappache10 (500 mcg–1.5 mg SC; limited energy, no claimed fat-burning benefit), Dull_Secretary_6734 (two weeks with Reta), and Letsgobeachfun (second dose with SS-31/Tirz/Glow).Unverified products, route and dose differences, co-use and short observation. OP asks a question rather than reporting completed use. Comments do not establish chloride superiority or a human half-life.
What people say
- Waist / stuck cuts: Community logs describe modest midsection / clothing change when diet, steps, and (often) a GLP-1 or deficit are already in place — attribution confounded. forumanecdote
- Appetite: Usually described as unchanged vs GLP-1s; standalone scale movement often milder and slower; animal work repeatedly notes weight/fat change without lower food intake. animalforum
- Lean-mass narrative: “Fat off without muscle” is the marketing/community line; human DXA-quality proof is thin; animal work emphasizes WAT loss without lean collapse in short windows. animalforum
- Energy / “things work better”: Subtle metabolic feel rather than stimulant buzz for many; a subset reports mild warmth/alertness or slight resting-HR uptick early; most noticeable in multi-agent recomp stacks (GLP-1 + MOTS-c + NAD precursor). forumanecdote
- Visceral-fat story: Preclinical and clinic blogs emphasize visceral / white-adipose NNMT biology; human imaging endpoints not established. animalforum
- Insulin / glucose (preclinical): Improved OGTT and insulin-sensitivity markers in longer DIO designs; community sometimes frames this as “metabolic flexibility” — not a diabetes drug claim. animalforum
- Cholesterol (mice): Same short DIO window reported lower total plasma cholesterol vs vehicle. animal
- Lipogenesis / cofactors (cells): Lower 1-MNA product, higher intracellular NAD+ and SAM in adipocyte models after NNMT block (e.g., 30 µM × 24 h in 3T3-L1 talk from the discovery series). lab
- Selectivity talk: Scaffold described as selective for NNMT vs related SAM-dependent methyltransferases and NAD salvage enzymes in the discovery series; PAMPA / Caco-2 membrane-permeability work supported oral interest. trial
- Diet synergy (mice): NNMTi + switch to lower-fat / reduced-calorie diet normalized adiposity/weight faster than diet switch alone (Dimet-Wiley / Sci Rep diet papers using 5A-1MQ; active API ~32 mg/kg SC in the 2022 Sci Rep design). animal
- 28-day metabolic extension (mice): Babula et al. (Diabetes Obes Metab 2024) — once-daily 5A1MQ for 28 days dose-dependently limited body-weight and fat-mass gains, improved oral glucose tolerance and insulin sensitivity, suppressed hyperinsulinaemia, and improved liver weight/steatosis/inflammation markers in DIO mice without relying on food-intake cut as the main story; tissue distribution to adipose, muscle, and liver after SC dosing discussed. animal
- Fat mass (DIO mice, short POC): Progressive body-weight loss vs saline over ~11 days SC NNMTi; epididymal fat-pad weight and adipocyte size down without food-intake change; ~34 mg/kg/day free-parent framing from 20 mg/kg/injection TID design (Neelakantan et al., Biochem Pharmacol 2018). animal
- Aged muscle (mice): Dimet-Wiley et al., Sci Rep 2024 — 22-mo mice, once-daily SC 5A-1MQ 10 mg/kg × 8 weeks: NNMTi-treated sedentary cohort ~40% greater grip strength vs sedentary controls in the paper’s framing; exercise (PoWeR) alone ~20–40% depending on summary; NNMTi + exercise ~60% grip vs sedentary; sustained running-distance gains and lower intramuscular fat signals also discussed. animal
Doses people talk about
- Dose-band chaos (critical): Public charts span roughly 150 mcg/day injectable up through 300–400 mg/day oral HED talk — multi-thousand-fold spread (YouTube/community “dosing problem” callouts often cite ~150 mcg to ~400 mg, ~2,500×). Treat any single “standard dose” as vendor/forum culture, not validated PK. forum
- Oral common band (dominant): ~50–150 mg/day by mouth is the most repeated research-community range; 50 mg capsules are a frequent unit size. forum
- Oral titration talk (copied chart): A frequently repeated chart describes ~50 mg once daily for 1–2 weeks, then ~100 mg/day (maintenance talk) or ~150 mg/day at the higher end; diminishing returns / more sides are sometimes claimed above ~150 mg. This is chart culture, not a validated progression. forum
- Oral “75 mg” middle talk: Some forum guides call ~50–100 mg daily the common range with ~75 mg as the most-used single target after a 50 mg start. forum
- Oral split (BID): 50 mg morning + 50 mg midday (or similar BID totaling ~100 mg) appears in discussion. Some writers cite multi-hour rodent t½ rather than weekly-peptide logic, but that does not establish the appropriate human interval or superiority over once-daily use. forum
- Oral clinic-style TID: Functional-medicine / longevity writeups often cite ~50 mg one to three times per day (≈50–150 mg/day total), sometimes with meals for stomach comfort. forum
- Oral conservative / low charts: ~5–25 mg/day oral appears in some stack guides (e.g., GLP-1 adjunct protocols that layer 5 mg → 10–25 mg); other writers call this under-dosed relative to HED from mice. forum
- Injectable subQ — mg-band discussion: Informal guides describe ~2.5 mg/day as a tolerance phase and ~5 mg once daily (or 2.5 mg BID), often around 50 mg lyophilized vials; other forum guides say ~10–30 mg/day SC. These are conflicting chart amounts, not a progression; high-mg volume practicality is one reason writers contrast them with oral use. forum
- Injectable subQ — mcg band (separate culture): Some clinic/forum 12-week tables describe ~150 mcg initially, ~300 mcg during weeks 2–4, ~450–500 mcg mid-block and up to ~600 mcg daily, sometimes split AM/PM. These are reported ladders, not instructions; the same name covers a very different magnitude from mg charts, which must not be mixed. forum
- Route conversion: No human study equates oral mg to SC mcg/mg; rat oral F ~38% does not license a clean conversion formula; mouse oral F described as poor in some SC-preferring lab designs. trialanimalforum
- Timing: Once-daily morning oral dominates; pre-cardio or fasted common; food optional for GI comfort; avoid doubling missed doses in informal protocols. forum
- Named oral camps (2026): 50 mg start → ~100 mg/day is still the copied climb; ~75 mg is the “middle”; ~150 mg is the high-oral camp; a loud minority still argues 2 mg (usually inject) vs 150 mg oral as if they were the same chart. forum
- Cardio-day split (n=1): Some oral logs run ~100 mg on cardio days and ~50 mg on other days (~70 mg average talk) — personal, not a protocol. anecdote
- Sublingual empty-stomach camp: Morning 50 mg held sublingual then swallowed shows up in 2026 review-blog roundups; no human PK that it beats a capsule. forum
- 2026 dose-spread threads: Public comments span ~2 mg injectable with “I’m flying” claims, 50 mg ×2 oral, and 25–50 mg/day injectable. These use different units/routes and are not interchangeable charts or proof of equivalent effects. forum
- Oral high / exploratory: 100–300 mg+/day (and allometric chatter near ~400 mg/day human-equivalent from aggressive mouse scaling) — explicitly labeled experimental; not validated. forum
- Purity / identity risk: Labels sometimes list “NNMT” (the enzyme) instead of the inhibitor; mg vs mcg vial errors and salt-form (iodide vs chloride) confusion appear in community QC talk. forum
- Framing: Discussed research/community ranges only — not advice, not prescriptions; no published human trial dose. forumtrial
- Animal — diet-synergy (not human): Dimet-Wiley 2022 used ~32 mg/kg active 5A-1MQ SC with low-fat diet switch (4 mg monochloride salt/mL saline at 10 mL/kg body weight in that methods writeup). animal
- Animal — 28-day metabolic (not human): Babula et al. 2024 once-daily SC 5A1MQ × 28 days in DIO mice (dose-dependent PD; exact mg/kg ladder in paper — do not treat as human schedule). animal
- Animal — Neelakantan DIO (not human): 20 mg/kg SC three times daily (~60 mg/kg/day nominal; ~34 mg/kg/day free parent in free-weight framing) for 11 days; escalation explored ~10–150 mg/kg/day total with ~60 mg/kg/day called well tolerated in n=2 pilot talk. animal
How it may feel
- Days 1–7: Earlier community notes describe little acute “hit,” with occasional brief fatigue, GI noise, warmth/alertness, headache or slight resting-HR rise rather than a caffeine-like effect. In a month-long oral account, Remarkable_Soil_2374 reported no immediate stimulation; other commenters describe alertness or no benefit. Products, diet and stacks differ. forum
- Weeks 1–2: Community logs track scale, waist tape, photos, sleep, stool and resting HR; appetite is often described as unchanged. Some oral charts use an initial ~50 mg period to discuss GI/sleep tolerance. This is self-log practice, not a validated assessment window. forum
- Weeks 3–4: First “is anything happening?” window — slight clothing/waist change only if deficit, steps, and protein are already solid; animal fat-mass papers also sit in multi-week horizons. forumanimal
- Weeks 4–8: Common window where recomp logs claim incremental midsection progress; still highly confounded by stacks and diet; informal “first visible change” talk often lands here if anywhere. forumanecdote
- Weeks 6–12: Typical full community cycle length for judging a block; Dimet-Wiley muscle design used 8 weeks; Babula metabolic design used 28 days — neither is a human timeline. forumanimal
- No change ~4–6 wk: Community troubleshooting: recheck true deficit, NEAT/steps, sleep, product identity/purity (COA), and which dose band was actually used (mg oral vs mcg inject chaos). forum
- Evening dosing feel: Some informal reports link later-day dosing to sleep disruption / metabolic “activation”; morning dominates protocols. forum
- Post-stop: No unique rebound lore unique to 5-Amino-1MQ; regain tracks calories and prior GLP-1/diet more than a classic rebound compound. anecdote
- Flush / warmth: Minority oral logs mention warmth, extra cardio sweat, or a mild flush — not a classic nicotinic-acid face-red. NAD/niacin in the same stack confuses the story. forumanecdote
- Muted mood (minority): A 2025–2026 month-log cluster mentions blunt/dull affect around week 3 at higher oral totals — diet-confounded, not a consensus AE. anecdote
Around the dose
- Clock: Morning / earlier in the day in fat-loss charts. Night is uncommon. forum
- Training: Paired with walking or lifting, not treated as a standalone fat burner. forum
- Food: Oral; people still talk protein and not eating in a huge surplus “because NNMT.” forum
- Fasted morning: Fat-loss charts often place capsules in the AM on an empty stomach; some oral logs instead mention food for GI comfort. Neither choice is a validated absorption or tolerance guarantee. forum
- Cardio pairing: Extra sweat on zone-2/walk days is a common “is it doing anything” tell — still not a stimulant. forum
- Methyl-support talk: TMG / methylated-B / MIC-blend neighbors show up because NNMT is a SAM consumer — stack logic, not a trial. forum
Cycles people discuss
- Common oral block: 8–12 weeks on is the most repeated community cycle length. forum
- Off period (wide): ~2–4 weeks off after an on-block is common; some guides prefer ~4–6 weeks off; other oral charts stretch off to ~4–8 weeks to “reset” NNMT baseline talk. forum
- Short probe: 4–6 weeks before calling a null result, especially if stacked variables changed. forum
- Clinic-style shorter: Some longevity/clinic writeups mention ~4–6 week 5-Amino-1MQ blocks with ongoing NAD support. forum
- Continuous vs pulsed: Some stay on through a full cut; others pulse around diet stalls or late-phase GLP-1 plateaus. forum
- Re-runs: Next recomp season restarts are common; multi-year continuous human safety data are not established. forum
- Stack sequencing (community example): One blog pattern describes GLP-1 titration in weeks 1–4, MOTS-c + NMN/NR around week 5, then 5-Amino-1MQ around weeks 7–8. This is reported sequencing, not a studied combination or instructions to add agents. forum
- Low-dose stack example: The same sequencing discussion contrasts a ~5 mg/day oral opening followed by 10–25 mg/day (low-chart camp) with 50→100–150 mg/day (dominant camp). These are conflicting chart traditions, not an instruction to choose or follow one. forum
Timing
- Dosing logic in discussion: Once-daily and BID oral schedules circulate rather than weekly depot-peptide schedules. Some content creators cite ~7 h oral rat t½ to argue for BID, but animal half-life does not validate either human schedule. forum
- Split-dose rationale: BID AM/midday splits are argued from short rodent t½, not proven human superiority. forum
- Visible change lag: Body-comp change tracks deficit consistency and weeks of exposure more than a single plasma peak; mouse fat endpoints sat in ~11–28 day windows, muscle endpoints at 8 weeks. animalanecdote
- Downstream biology: NNMT block → SAM/NAD shifts and gene-program remodeling in adipose can take days–weeks in models; subjective “feel” is often subtle. animalforum
- Rat oral PK (Awosemo et al., JPBA 2021 LC-MS/MS): Terminal t½ ~6.90 ± 1.20 h oral; ~3.80 ± 1.10 h IV; oral bioavailability F% ≈ 38.4; substantial oral plasma exposure (mean Cmax ~2252 ng/mL oral in that design; mean AUC0–∞ ~14431 h·ng/mL oral vs ~3708 h·ng/mL IV in the reported groups). animal
- Human PK: The checked rat study does not establish human capsule or SC kinetics; its abstract also does not specify the administered dose or salt form. A human estimate remains unresolved in this source review. trial
- Species oral gap: Dimet-Wiley 2022 methods note poor oral bioavailability in mice (reason given for SC choice) that “does not occur in rats” — community oral-vs-inject arguments often ignore this species split. animal
- Mouse half-life note: Separate MQ-scaffold / related-compound work has reported multi-hour mouse plasma half-lives (e.g., ~5.7 h in one related oral-gavage series) — compound- and study-specific. animal
- Tissue distribution (animal): SC dosing associated with exposure in metabolically active tissues (adipose, muscle, liver) in 28-day PD framing — not human tissue PK. animal
More on what it is
- Why people search it: Flagship non-GLP-1 fat-loss research compound with high talk volume: fat-cell-size / recomp narrative without the appetite crash of semaglutide-class drugs; heavily stacked late into GLP-1 plateaus. forum
- Not: Not a GLP-1, not a stimulant thermogenic class drug, not pure NAD+ replacement, not an FDA-approved weight-loss drug, not the enzyme NNMT itself (vendors sometimes mislabel the enzyme as the ingredient), not interchangeable with other MQ-scaffold NNMTi analogs without study-specific data. trialforum
- What it is: Small-molecule NNMT (nicotinamide N-methyltransferase) inhibitor — a charged 1-methylquinolinium salt (commonly iodide or chloride monosalts), not a peptide despite “amino” in the name and peptide-vendor placement. Research-only; not FDA-approved for weight loss as of mid-2026 status checks. trial
- Mechanism (popular): NNMT methylates nicotinamide using SAM → makes 1-MNA and consumes methyl groups. Block NNMT → more NAD+ precursor flux + higher local SAM → adipocytes shift toward higher energy expenditure / less “storage” phenotype in models; SIRT1-adjacent talk often follows. labanimal
- Foundational target rationale: Kraus et al. (Nature 2014) NNMT knockdown in WAT/liver protected against diet-induced obesity by raising energy expenditure — the enzyme-target story that later small-molecule NNMTis ride. animal
- Key animal signal (obesity POC): DIO mice lost body weight and white-fat mass without eating less under short SC NNMTi (Neelakantan et al., Biochem Pharmacol 2018); later work pairs NNMTi with diet switch, extends to 28-day metabolic/liver endpoints, and tests aged-muscle strength. animal
- Evidence honesty: Mouse/cell data and rat PK denser than human; as of mid-2026 community/regulatory summaries, no definitive human fat-loss RCT package is cited as published, and FDA has at least one compounding/503B-context warning letter naming the compound (GenoGenix, Jan 2026) — not an approval and not a safety clearance. trial
Stacks
- GLP-1 / dual / triple agonists: Semaglutide, tirzepatide, retatrutide — framed as non-appetite metabolic / visceral adjunct once deficit exists; late-plateau midsection talk is common. forum
- MOTS-c pair (flagship duo): Extremely common “mito + NNMT” fat-loss stack; MOTS-c AMPK/mito spend + 5-Amino-1MQ “stop the NAD precursor bleed” story. Example blog pairing: MOTS-c ~5–10 mg/week SC (2–3×/week) + 5-Amino-1MQ ~100 mg oral AM — not a trial. forum
- NAD precursors: NMN or NR (~250–500 mg/day talk in stack blogs) co-run so more precursor is available when NNMT is blocked; some sequence NAD first, then MOTS-c, then 5-Amino-1MQ; others start NAD + MOTS-c together then add 5-Amino-1MQ. forum
- Full metabolic stack example (blog, not trial): Retatrutide weekly + MOTS-c daily-ish + NMN/NR + 5-Amino-1MQ morning oral — track each lever separately. forum
- MitoPrime-style blend talk: Commercial/community multi-agent NAD+/MOTS-c/5-Amino-1MQ blend naming; no combined human safety file — risk picture is pieced from parts. forum
- Tesofensine oral pair: ~0.5 mg/day tesofensine (appetite DA/NE/5-HT) + ~100 mg/day 5-Amino-1MQ (metabolic) in some oral-only stack charts; stimulant-overlap caution when both raise alertness. forum
- GH-axis / lipolytic neighbors: Tesamorelin (visceral GH axis), AOD-9604, Frag 176-191, ipamorelin/CJC-class in multi-agent cuts. forum
- Other mito / recomp names: SS-31, SLU-PP-332 (exercise-mimetic small molecule; different target), urolithin A appear in anecdotal mega-stacks. forumanecdote
- Baseline always credited: Progressive lifting + high protein + measured deficit/steps when “results looked good.” forum
- Stack caution: Concurrent agents make before/after attribution impossible; no systematic interaction trials with GLP-1s, MOTS-c, tesofensine, or NAD precursors. forum
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Storage notes
- No mix instructions here: STUDresearch does not list reconstitution, diluent volumes, or syringe unit charts. People reconstitute many different ways and vial labels differ — that content creates more confusion than clarity. forum
- Storage (general talk only): Unopened research products are usually kept cool, dry, and away from light per the seller label. Anything after first use is product-specific — follow the label, not a universal forum SOP. forum
Watch for
- Mild GI: Loose stool, stomach noise, or mild nausea first 1–2 weeks in some oral logs; sometimes mitigated by food. forum
- Early fatigue: 1–3 days low energy in a subset of logs; causality unproven. forum
- Headache: Occasional, typically mild and dose-related in community side-effect lists. forum
- Warmth / mild stimulant-like feel / resting HR: Informal reports of warmth, alertness, or ~few-bpm resting-HR uptick early; if sustained/symptomatic, community stop-and-reassess talk. forum
- Flush ≠ niacin flush: Warmth/flush reports get mixed with NAD or nicotinic acid. 5-Amino-1MQ is an NNMT inhibitor, not a flushing-niacin dose. forum
- Sleep / evening dose: Metabolic activation / sleep disruption anecdotes favor morning-only schedules. forum
- Injection local: Sting, itch, redness or soreness are described with subQ products; quinolinium chemistry is often blamed for sting. Abdomen, thigh and arm site-rotation talk also appears, but it does not establish product quality or a safe technique. forum
- Methylation theory risk: NNMT is a major SAM consumer in adipose; systemic chronic inhibition could theoretically alter one-carbon / DNA / histone methylation balance elsewhere — discussed as theoretical, not a proven clinical table; methyl-donor-sensitive meds sometimes flagged in caution lists. forumtrial
- Cancer biology complexity: NNMT is overexpressed in several cancers and discussed as biomarker/promoter in some contexts; net effect of long-term NNMT inhibition on cancer risk in humans is unknown (one in-vitro anti-proliferative signal in HeLa does not settle risk). Active malignancy is a common community caution flag. trialforum
- Liver unknowns: Animal 28-day work reported improved steatosis markers at research doses, but that is not a human hepatology package; community sometimes suggests baseline ALT/AST curiosity — not a validated monitoring protocol. animalforum
- Source quality: Mislabeling enzyme vs inhibitor, wrong dose unit (mg vs mcg), weak or fake COAs, salt-form ambiguity. forum
- Interactions: No systematic clinical interaction data with prescription meds, concurrent GLP-1s, multi-peptide stacks, or high-dose methylated B-vitamin protocols. forum
- Not “proven mild = proven safe”: Subjective tolerability on forums is not a substitute for controlled AE capture, labs, or long-term follow-up. forum
- Access / RUO vs compounding: Oral capsules and lyophilized vials are research-chem; FDA compounding/503B warning-letter context (GenoGenix Jan 2026) is a status fight, not a green light. trialforum
- Orange stain (inject): Some vial logs mention orange staining — handling nuisance, not an efficacy sign. anecdote
- Human safety gap: Short rodent windows and cell work ≠ long-term human safety package; not FDA-approved for weight loss as of 2026 community status summaries. animaltrial
- Compounding / regulatory note: FDA warning-letter context (e.g., GenoGenix Jan 2026) has named 5-Amino-1MQ in 503B bulks / compounding-eligibility discussion — a regulatory status finding, not an efficacy verdict. trial
- Pregnancy / peds / unknowns: Not characterized; research-only framing. forum
- Compare honestly to approved agents: Semaglutide/tirzepatide have large Phase 3 weight-loss packages; 5-Amino-1MQ does not — mechanism interest ≠ clinical equivalence. trial
