STUDresearch · Peptide
Pemvidutide
Also known as
ALT-801 · Pemvidutide (Altimmune) · GLP-1/glucagon dual agonist · GLP-1R/GCGR dual agonist · Balanced 1:1 GLP-1/glucagon coagonist · EuPort GLP-1/glucagon dual agonist
Community talk. May be wrong. Not medical advice. Not a protocol. Not for human or animal use.
Systemic once-weekly dual GLP-1/glucagon agonist — whole-body appetite, weight, cardiometabolic, and liver-fat effects rather than a local tissue inject.
MOMENTUM followed these arms for 48 weeks. The 2.4 mg mean-weight result is a trial endpoint, not a preferred personal dose.
The IMPACT population and liver-biopsy endpoints differ from the obesity study. Lower GI discontinuation figures there do not erase the obesity-program burden.
Twelve-week studies could extend to 24 weeks; the number of weeks is a study course, not the drug’s half-life.
Half-life & effect duration
- Half-life in the body
- Sponsor table · injectedAbout 110 hours
- Secondary estimateAbout 144 hours — roughly 6 days
- Felt duration people report
- Felt durationNo consistent pemvidutide-specific firsthand window reported
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Timing context & sources
Half-life in the body
Sponsor table: 110-hour half-life at 1.8 mg SC.
The table also lists Tmax of 70 hours in the Phase 1 presentation.
Sponsor disclosure rather than a complete peer-reviewed PK analysis; the older 144-hour secondary figure remains unverified. This is not felt duration.
- Altimmune corporate presentation: pemvidutide PK table (opens in a new tab)PDF page 18 (zero-based page 17), “PEMVIDUTIDE PK PROFILE CONFIRMS WEEKLY DOSING”: ALT-801 1.8 mg SC column; 110-hour half-life and 70-hour Tmax. Surrounding Phase 1 MAD trial and safety slides inspected as extracted text.Sponsor-authored presentation on a third-party mirror, not a peer-reviewed PK table. Table text reviewed; screenshot requests did not expose an image for visual inspection. Single table column does not establish all-dose or individualized timing.
- Altimmune 2021 Phase 1 MAD results (opens in a new tab)2021-09-28 release: study design paragraphs; 12-week MAD weight-loss and safety tables; discussion immediately following safety table.Sponsor summary of 34 non-diabetic overweight/obese volunteers receiving 1.2, 1.8 or 2.4 mg SC weekly without titration. Not the later MOMENTUM design, MASH population or a first-person diary.
Felt duration people report
A pemvidutide-specific appetite or GI onset-to-offset interval is not established here.
The visible community discussions focus on trial interpretation and future expectations. Their first-person experiences involve other incretins.
No verified pemvidutide diary or same-author treatment follow-up was identified in these two threads; trial weight endpoints cannot substitute.
- Has anyone heard or tried pemvidutide? (opens in a new tab)Opening question and all visible substantive replies, especially LoosedOfLimits on prior tirzepatide use and steven_meyerr on trial-population/durability limits.No pemvidutide treatment log in the visible discussion. Reported liver-lab improvement was with tirzepatide; stock ownership and hypothetical liver targeting are not evidence of pemvidutide experience or distribution.
- Pemvutitide Superior Tolerability: debate and follow-up (opens in a new tab)Opening post; drewstrong83 and possible-penguin personal experiences; GoreBurnelli8105 reply on the 2.4 mg arm; Excellent-Ad-9925 explanation and Local-Law-1461 correction follow-up.Investor discussion with competing interpretations of trial design. Actual personal treatment experiences concern Wegovy/Mounjaro, not pemvidutide. No reported pemvidutide onset/offset or verified dosing diary.
What people say
- Community rank: Grouped with survodutide / mazdutide / retatrutide when people map “glucagon-containing” fat + liver dual/triple talk; often framed as biotech pipeline, not daily research-chem staple. forum
- Appetite: Class-default less hunger / easier deficit once on effective weekly dose. forum
- Weight loss MOMENTUM Phase 2 obesity (48 weeks, n≈391, no diabetes, diet+exercise adjunct): Mean losses ~10.3% (1.2 mg), ~11.2% (1.8 mg), ~15.6% (2.4 mg) vs ~2.2% placebo (MMRM). trial
- High-dose responders (MOMENTUM 2.4 mg, completer-style responder tables): >50% hit ≥15% loss; ~32% hit ≥20% at 48 weeks; ≥5% / ≥10% rates also strongly dose-favoring drug vs placebo. trial
- Near-linear late curve: 2.4 mg trajectory still declining near end of 48 weeks — company narrative of potential further loss with continued treatment. trial
- Week-24 interim MOMENTUM: ~7.3% / 9.4% / 10.7% at 1.2 / 1.8 / 2.4 mg vs ~1.0% placebo; higher relative efficacy in subjects ≤115 kg baseline. trial
- Body composition (MOMENTUM MRI substudy, n=50 on drug, ADA 2024): ~78.1% of lost weight as fat mass / ~21.9% as lean — company “class-leading lean preservation” vs historical reports of up to ~40% lean share on other incretins; cross-trial comparisons are not head-to-head. trial
- Liver fat MASLD/NAFLD Phase 2 (12–24 weeks): Large MRI-PDFF relative LFC drops — public figures include up to ~68.5% relative reduction at 12 weeks and ~56–76% relative reductions at 24 weeks by dose band vs low double-digit or single-digit placebo. trial
- Liver normalization / responders: High rates of ≥30% relative LFC drop and meaningful LFC normalization vs placebo in NAFLD cohorts; cT1 (fibro-inflammation MRI proxy) responder rates far above placebo. trial
- Liver enzymes: ALT reductions and related hepatic inflammation markers improved vs placebo in MASLD and MASH programs. trial
- IMPACT Phase 2b MASH (24 weeks, F2/F3 biopsy, 1.2 / 1.8 mg): Primary MASH resolution without fibrosis worsening met — ITT-style reports ~59% / ~52% on 1.2 / 1.8 mg vs ~19% placebo; fibrosis-improvement-without-MASH-worsening arm not statistically significant at 24 weeks. trial
- IMPACT 48-week NITs: Continued liver-fat reductions (~45% / ~55% mean relative at 1.2 / 1.8 mg vs ~8% placebo in company 48-week summaries); ELF + LSM dual-response and fibrosis-biomarker talk; additional weight loss on 1.8 mg without clear plateau. trial
- Weight in MASH context: IMPACT 24-week means ~5.0% / ~6.2% at 1.2 / 1.8 mg vs ~1.0% placebo — meaningful but lower than MOMENTUM 2.4 mg obesity means (different population/dose set). trial
- Lipids (MOMENTUM): Triglycerides down sharply (e.g. ~−35% at 2.4 mg LSM vs rise on placebo); total cholesterol and LDL also improved in secondary tables. trial
- Blood pressure / heart rate: Systolic/diastolic BP improved or stable-favorable vs placebo; heart-rate change small (roughly low single-digit bpm LSM at higher doses) without MACE signal in MOMENTUM summaries. trial
- Glucose homeostasis (obesity trials): Fasting glucose and HbA1c largely steady — not positioned as a pure T2D incretin story; Phase 1b T2D safety work reported weight loss with limited HbA1c punch vs classic diabetes agents. trial
- RECLAIM Phase 2 AUD (2.4 mg weekly × 24 weeks, overweight/obese AUD): Primary endpoint met — least-squares mean ~1.45 fewer heavy drinking days/week vs placebo; company also reported meeting key secondary WHO risk-drinking-level endpoints. trial
- Absolute loss framing (company 2.4 mg): ~15.6% mean framed as ~32 lb mean loss at 48 weeks in press materials (baseline-dependent; mean baseline ~104 kg / BMI ~37). trial
Doses people talk about
- Community / research-chem reality: Authentic personal mg charts and vial math are rare vs retatrutide or tirzepatide gray-market culture; unlabeled “GLP-1/glucagon dual” research products are not verified as clinical pemvidutide. forum
- Do not invent ladders: Unlike reta (2→4→8→12 mg lore) or tirz (2.5→15 mg), there is no widely shared multi-step “bro ladder” beyond the trial full-start / short 2.4 mg ramp pattern. forum
- Framing: Published/trial and community discussion ranges only — research/educational context, not medical advice, not approved labeling, not a gray-market protocol endorsement. forum
- Obesity / MOMENTUM weekly arms: Once-weekly subQ 1.2 mg, 1.8 mg, 2.4 mg for 48 weeks with diet + activity. trial
- Titration culture (trial): 1.2 mg and 1.8 mg typically started at full dose; 2.4 mg used a short titration over about the first 4 weeks. No multi-month 8–20 week ladder like sema/tirz/reta public ladders. trial
- Efficacy band most cited: 2.4 mg weekly for peak obesity mean loss (~15.6% at 48 weeks MOMENTUM). trial
- MASH / IMPACT doses: 1.2 mg and 1.8 mg once weekly (2.4 mg not the IMPACT pair); biopsy primary at 24 weeks with extension NITs to 48 weeks. trial
- AUD RECLAIM dose: 2.4 mg once weekly × ~24 weeks vs placebo (≈100 participants, BMI >25). trial
- MASLD/NAFLD Phase 2 doses: Same 1.2 / 1.8 / 2.4 mg weekly bands as obesity, 12 weeks with optional extension to 24 weeks in earlier designs. trial
- Phase 3 PERFORMA (MASH): Global registrational program initiated/enrolling in 2026 company announcements — dose set and titration details should be taken from protocol/registry, not assumed identical to Phase 2. trial
- Lifestyle co-intervention: MOMENTUM obesity arms included reduced-calorie diet + increased activity; some MASLD work emphasized pharmacology with less lifestyle co-prescription — context matters when comparing % losses. trial
How it may feel
- Multi-month plateau talk: Sparse molecule-specific personal logs; community borrows general incretin advice (protein, resistance training, GI management, dose hold) rather than pemvidutide-unique schedules. In two opened Reddit discussions, people debate liver and GI trial results, but the personal treatment stories concern tirzepatide, Wegovy or Mounjaro. They do not establish pemvidutide’s felt onset, duration or plateau timing. forum
- Weeks 0–4 (onboarding): 1.2 and 1.8 mg often full-start in trials; 2.4 mg uses a short ~4-week ramp. Early GI (nausea, vomiting, bowel change) clusters here even without long multi-month titration. trial
- Weeks 1–4 GI reality: Company narrative stresses “no long titration needed” via EuPort slow absorption — still, higher MOMENTUM doses saw substantial nausea rates; full-start is not side-effect-free. trial
- Weeks 4–12: Early weight separation and (in liver trials) rapid LFC drops; appetite settling if the dose is held is a discussion expectation, not a measured universal trajectory. Most drug-related discontinuations in MOMENTUM clustered in first ~16 weeks. trial
- Weeks 12–24: Further weight and liver-fat separation from placebo; IMPACT biopsy endpoint window; RECLAIM AUD heavy-drinking endpoint at 24 weeks. trial
- Weeks 24–48 (obesity): MOMENTUM high dose kept a near-linear loss path; body-composition story (fat-preferential) is a 48-week MRI narrative. trial
- Weeks 24–48 (MASH IMPACT): NITs, lipids, weight, and BP improvements tracked out to a year in company EASL-era updates; 1.8 mg weight still moving without clear plateau talk. trial
- If GI limits: Trial protocols often did not allow dose reduction for intolerance (unlike some peer incretin designs) — real-world discussion therefore stresses slower start, smaller meals, or not pushing 2.4 mg. trial
Cycles people discuss
- Community “runs”: Sparse molecule-specific logs; when discussed, people borrow multi-month incretin patterns (stay on until goal/intolerance/supply) rather than timed on/off peaking cycles. forum
- Off periods: No standard pemvidutide off-cycle, PCT, or bridging protocol in community literature; post-stop weight and appetite maintenance remain open class problems. forum
- Not a short recomp stack: Discussed as systemic metabolic agonist, not a 4–6 week injury or cosmetic peptide course. forum
- Obesity trial length: MOMENTUM 48 weeks continuous weekly dosing — development model is chronic use, not 8–12 week bodybuilding cycles. trial
- Liver fat / MASLD lengths: ~12–24 weeks in earlier NAFLD programs; IMPACT MASH 24-week biopsy primary with 48-week NIT follow-through. trial
- AUD trial length: RECLAIM ~24 weeks weekly. trial
- Phase 3 horizon: PERFORMA MASH Phase 3 is long registrational (multi-year outcome/fibrosis windows in public planning talk) — continuous weekly therapy model. trial
Timing
- Practical timing: Same weekday weekly; meal timing micromanagement less standardized than daily orals. Missed-dose handling is clinical-protocol territory, not a mature forum FAQ. forum
- Washout versus felt effect: Multi-week residual exposure is an expectation extrapolated from a multi-day plasma clock, not a measured duration of appetite control, nausea or protection. Exact personal clearance and felt offset are not established by the opened table. forum
- Weekly design intent: EuPort domain extends half-life and is described as slowing entry into blood — supports once-weekly subQ and is the company’s GI-tolerability differentiator claim. trial
- Human PK table versus secondary shorthand: The opened sponsor table for ALT-801 1.8 mg SC reports a 110-hour half-life and 70-hour time to peak concentration. Older secondary summaries cite ≈144 hours / ~6 days; that figure is retained as unverified shorthand, not a pooled measured range or an inherited incretin-class value. trial
- Albumin binding: Fatty-acid / EuPort albumin-binding strategy reduces renal clearance and proteolysis (preclinical and mechanism decks describe very high albumin association). trial
- Cadence: Fixed once-weekly injection day — not daily microdosing and not multi-day split dosing in public trial designs. trial
- Peak vs trough GI theory: Company and publications argue GI AEs track peak concentration; flatter absorption curve is the rationale for full-start lower doses. trial
- Glucagon downstream: Hepatic fat oxidation, energy-expenditure, and lipid-mobilization narratives beyond pure GLP-1 appetite suppression — the “diet + exercise mimetic” marketing line. trial
- GLP-1 downstream: Satiety, gastric emptying slowdown, and class metabolic effects. trial
More on what it is
- Evidence honesty: Multiple human Phase 2 RCTs and company/ADA/EASL readouts exist; authentic personal research-chem logs and gray-market protocols are sparse vs sema, tirz, or retatrutide. forum
- Not the same as: Semaglutide (GLP-1 only), tirzepatide (GIP/GLP-1), retatrutide (GIP/GLP-1/glucagon triple), survodutide/mazdutide/cotadutide (other multi-agonist programs). forum
- What it is: Investigational peptide-based balanced (~1:1) GLP-1 + glucagon dual receptor agonist (ALT-801) from Altimmune; not a pure GLP-1 clone and not a GIP dual like tirzepatide. trial
- Dual action (plain): GLP-1 arm = appetite suppression / slower gastric emptying; glucagon arm = energy-expenditure, lipolysis, and direct hepatic fat-metabolism narratives that go beyond intake cut alone. trial
- EuPort half-life tech: Proprietary EuPort domain (albumin-binding fatty-acid style extension) prolongs serum half-life for once-weekly subQ use and is marketed as slowing bloodstream entry to blunt peak-related GI sides. trial
- Why people care: Solid Phase 2 obesity (MOMENTUM) + MASLD/MASH (IMPACT + earlier NAFLD) footprint, “class-leading lean-mass preservation” company messaging, and later AUD (RECLAIM) signals — plus Phase 3 PERFORMA MASH start talk. trial
- Status: Not FDA-approved for obesity, MASH, or AUD as of last research; clinical candidate only. Outside-trial powders are not the trial drug. trial
- Half-life framing: Older secondary write-ups quote ~144 hours (~6 days) and compare weekly incretin schedules. That figure is not verified here; the opened sponsor table reports 110 hours at 1.8 mg SC. Shared weekly cadence does not establish a shared class half-life. trial
Stacks
- Standalone metabolic agonist: Discussed as solo weekly dual agonist for fat/liver goals — not a BPC-157 / TB-500 injury stack component. forum
- Compare, don’t combine incretins: Community comparison set is usually semaglutide, tirzepatide, survodutide, retatrutide, mazdutide — not concurrent stacking of multiple GLP-1-pathway agents. forum
- Multi-incretin risk: Stacking pemvidutide-class duals with sema/tirz/reta treated as high-risk receptor redundancy and GI/gallbladder load — generally discouraged in cautious discussion. forum
- Support tactics (class): Higher protein targets, lifting to defend lean mass, anti-nausea strategies (meal size, timing, OTC talk), fiber/electrolytes for bowel swings — adjunct habits, not proven pemvidutide-specific stacks. forum
- Liver-angle pairing talk: Sometimes discussed alongside other MASH pipeline agents in strategy threads, but combination regimens are clinical-trial territory, not established DIY stacks. forum
- No standard GLOW/Wolverine-style ratio blend: Not a multi-peptide pre-mix culture compound. forum
- Trial lifestyle stack: Calorie reduction + increased physical activity co-prescribed in MOMENTUM obesity; protein + resistance training emphasized in body-composition preservation talk. trial
Storage notes
- No mix instructions here: STUDresearch does not list reconstitution, diluent volumes, or syringe unit charts. People reconstitute many different ways and vial labels differ — that content creates more confusion than clarity. forum
- Storage (general talk only): Unopened research products are usually kept cool, dry, and away from light per the seller label. Anything after first use is product-specific — follow the label, not a universal forum SOP. forum
Watch for
- Class risks (imported caution discourse): Gallbladder events, pancreatitis discussion, muscle/lean loss if protein and training are neglected, nutrient gaps with rapid loss, dehydration with vomiting/diarrhea. forum
- Borrowed boxed-warning style talk: Medullary thyroid carcinoma / MEN2-style GLP-1 class cautions are often imported in community risk lists — class discourse, not a finished pemvidutide consumer label. forum
- Counterfeit / research-chem risk: Non-trial powders easily mislabeled or contaminated; dual-agonist labels are especially hard to verify analytically for end users. forum
- GI AEs (dominant class): Nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, constipation — top adverse-event category across programs; predominantly mild–moderate in company summaries. trial
- MOMENTUM nausea rates (approx.): Placebo ~11%; 1.2 mg ~26%; 1.8 mg ~60%; 2.4 mg ~52% — full-start higher doses still GI-heavy. trial
- MOMENTUM vomiting: Placebo ~3%; 1.2 mg ~6%; 1.8 / 2.4 mg ~27–28%. trial
- MOMENTUM diarrhea / constipation: Dose-related rises (diarrhea up to ~19% at 2.4 mg; constipation up to ~23% at 2.4 mg in tabulated summaries). trial
- Discontinuations (MOMENTUM): AEs leading to stop ~5% / ~19% / ~20% at 1.2 / 1.8 / 2.4 mg vs ~6% placebo; drug-related discontinuations ~4% / ~16% / ~16% vs ~2% placebo — higher doses are not “side-effect free” despite EuPort marketing. trial
- IMPACT MASH tolerability contrast: Very low AE-related discontinuations reported (~0% / ~1% at 1.2 / 1.8 mg vs low single-digit placebo) in 24-week toplines — different population and dose set than MOMENTUM 2.4 mg obesity. trial
- Serious AE example: Rare drug-related SAEs of severe vomiting / rehydration reported at 2.4 mg in obesity program materials. trial
- Cardiac narrative: MOMENTUM emphasized no MACE imbalance, low arrhythmia rates, and only small HR LSM changes — still investigational long-term CV outcomes data. trial
- Full-start still hits GI: Short/no long titration is a differentiator claim, not a guarantee of zero nausea or bowel issues. trial
- Investigational status: Outside supervised trials there is no approved indication, no verified pharmacy product identity, and no long-term safety label. trial
- Glucose / T2D nuance: Obesity trials kept glucose fairly flat; do not assume diabetes-drug-level glycemic rescue or identical T2D side-effect profile. trial
- Alcohol / AUD context: RECLAIM GI rates (nausea etc.) still present; drinking-reduction signals do not make unsupervised use appropriate for AUD treatment. trial
- Not risk-free: Strong weight and liver signals sit next to real GI burden at higher doses, open long-term safety, and zero purity guarantee outside trials. trial
