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Pelvic floor

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The pelvic floor is the layer of muscles supporting the bladder, bowel and reproductive organs. It helps with bladder and bowel control and sexual function. Problems can involve weakness or difficulty relaxing; pelvic-floor care is about restoring function, not simply squeezing harder.

Cleveland Clinic · 2025

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Strength, relaxation and what practice involves

These muscles need to squeeze and let go. They form a sling across the bottom of the pelvis. Contraction helps close the urine and bowel outlets; relaxation allows emptying. A healthy pelvic floor needs both strength and flexibility.

Cleveland Clinic · 2025

Weakness can reduce support and control. Childbirth, surgery or injury can weaken these muscles. Possible problems include leaking urine, stool or gas, and pelvic-organ prolapse, where an organ sags from its usual position.

Cleveland Clinic · 2025

Overactivity means the muscles struggle to relax. Also called a hypertonic pelvic floor, this can involve pelvic pain, painful sex, constipation or difficulty starting or maintaining a urine stream. It needs a different approach from simply adding strength work.

Cleveland Clinic · 2022

An assessment checks contraction and relaxation. A clinician asks about symptoms, bathroom habits and sexual discomfort. Examination may include checking the muscles externally and a vaginal or rectal exam; the aim is to understand how they function.

Cleveland Clinic · 2022

A Kegel includes a full release. The basic movement is an inward squeeze, a brief hold, then complete relaxation. NIDDK describes a 3-second hold as an example, with repetitions tailored by a professional. Squeezing other muscles instead can increase pressure on the bladder.

NIDDK · 2021

Relaxation work retrains the release. Pelvic physical therapy (PT) may use guided relaxation, stretching, massage or biofeedback—information about muscle activity—to help an overactive pelvic floor contract and relax more effectively.

Cleveland Clinic · 2022

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What targeted care may improve

Training may improve urine control. When weakness contributes to leaking, assessment-based muscle training is a treatment option. The NHS describes programmes lasting at least 3 months; that is time to work on control, not a guaranteed recovery deadline.

NHS · 2023

Treating overactivity may ease symptoms. Pelvic PT is a main treatment for hypertonic muscles. Relief can be partial, and persistent symptoms may require further evaluation or other treatment.

Cleveland Clinic · 2022

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Before adding more Kegels

More repetitions are not always appropriate. Kegels are not suitable in every case. Overdoing them can lead to straining when peeing or having a bowel movement; a rising rep count is not a substitute for an appropriate plan.

NIDDK · 2021

Stopping urine is not a daily exercise. Repeated midstream practice can prevent complete bladder emptying and increase bladder-infection risk. Muscle practice belongs outside regular urination.

NIDDK · 2021

New leaks or pelvic pain deserve assessment. Symptoms can have causes beyond muscle weakness. Blood in urine, inability to pass urine or empty the bladder, or painful urination call for prompt medical care rather than another exercise set.

NIDDK · 2021

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Living, lifting and keeping up with pelvic PT

Symptoms, cues and uncertainty about exercises

Symptoms show up beyond heavy lifts. People describe leaks, heaviness or discomfort with running, jumping, postpartum life and sitting at a desk. Some feel relief when an assessment finally gives the problem a name.

Community

Kegel challenges leave some people guessing. Reports push back on copying a 10-minute reel or chasing a hundred squeezes. The practical question is whether they were taught strengthening, relaxation (often called down-training) or coordination, rather than just completing the challenge.

Community

Changing lifting cues helps some, but not everyone. In an r/xxfitness thread, one person described continuing heavy lifting after pelvic PT taught different muscle cues. Another stopped deadlifts after repeated pressure symptoms despite attention to bracing. Others reported no pelvic symptoms from lifting.

Community · Reddit r/xxfitness · 2020

Slow progress and changing symptoms

A short home routine can still take weeks of attention. Accounts describe an assessment followed by assigned homework alongside lifting. Doing squeezes in the car can become a habit while the breathing or bracing cues taught for the actual lift get neglected.

Community

Progress and flares can coexist. In one discussion, people described relief after a first visit, improvement after about 8 weeks, or meaningful change around 3 months. The original poster also found some relaxation and abdominal exercises irritating. These are individual timelines, not a session target.

Community · Reddit r/PelvicFloor · 2023

Feeling less tight does not always mean fewer symptoms. One man reported a month of breathing, posture, stretching and hip exercises. He felt looser but still had dribbling, hesitancy and incomplete bladder emptying, with little change in those symptoms.

Community · Reddit r/PelvicFloor · 2024

The cost of continuing care

Slow progress can make the cost hard to justify. One poster paying $200 a week questioned the value while still feeling miserable. Replies described differing sessions and results: some found substantial relief, while another stopped for financial reasons after mostly temporary benefit.

Community · Reddit r/PelvicFloor

References for this topic

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  1. Kegel Exercises ↗

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    self-guide-pelvic-floor-niddk — Kegel Exercises
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    NIDDK
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    Official context
    accessed On
    2026-09-24
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    How do I do Kegel exercises; Practice the exercise; Add to your daily routine; last reviewed November 2021
    scope
    Starter method: find the muscles, hold about 3 seconds, fully relax, work up to 10 to 15 repetitions, practice lying, sitting, and standing at least three times a day for about 5 minutes, and avoid regular urine-stopping practice.
    limitations
    A public how-to page, not an exam of any one person, and not a statement that every leak is weakness or that bladder control will change in 3 to 6 weeks.
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    • pelvic-floor
  2. Pelvic floor dysfunction: prevention and non-surgical management (NG210), Recommendations ↗

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    self-guide-pelvic-floor-nice — Pelvic floor dysfunction: prevention and non-surgical management (NG210), Recommendations
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    NICE
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    Professional context
    accessed On
    2026-09-24
    locator
    Recommendations 1.3.15, 1.3.16, 1.6.13, 1.6.14, 1.6.18, 1.6.19, and the terms definition of pelvic floor muscle training; published 9 December 2021
    scope
    Training includes relaxation as well as strength. Supervised programs assess contraction and relaxation. Duration guidance differs by symptom group, including at least 3 months for stress or mixed urinary incontinence.
    limitations
    A clinical guideline for women in the UK health system, not a home workout and not proof that an unsupervised video plan matches those programs.
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    • pelvic-floor
  3. Pelvic Floor Muscles: Anatomy, Function & Conditions ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-anatomy — Pelvic Floor Muscles: Anatomy, Function & Conditions
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    • pelvic-floor
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    Professional context
    platform
    Cleveland Clinic
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    Overview; Function; Anatomy; Conditions and Disorders; Care
    scope
    Definition, support, squeeze/release and weakness.
    limitations
    Patient explainer; not an individual assessment or outcome estimate.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    last Reviewed
    2025-06-27
  4. Hypertonic Pelvic Floor: Symptoms, Causes & Treatment ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-hypertonic — Hypertonic Pelvic Floor: Symptoms, Causes & Treatment
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    • pelvic-floor
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    Professional context
    platform
    Cleveland Clinic
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    Overview; Symptoms; Diagnosis and Tests; Management and Treatment; Outlook
    scope
    Overactivity, assessment and treatment.
    limitations
    Educational context; symptom overlap prevents self-diagnosis.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    last Reviewed
    2022-04-26
  5. Kegel Exercises ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-kegels — Kegel Exercises
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    • pelvic-floor
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    Official context
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    NIDDK / NIH
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    Should I do Kegel exercises?; Learn the method; Don't squeeze other muscles; Don't overdo it
    scope
    Basic movement and practice cautions.
    limitations
    General example; not a universal routine.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    last Reviewed
    2021-11
  6. Urinary incontinence: Non-surgical treatment ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-nhs-treatment — Urinary incontinence: Non-surgical treatment
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    • pelvic-floor
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    Official context
    platform
    NHS
    locator
    Pelvic floor muscle training
    scope
    Assessment-based training and programme duration.
    limitations
    UK patient guidance; review due 15 June 2026. Not a recovery guarantee.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    last Reviewed
    2023-06-15
  7. Symptoms & Causes of Bladder Control Problems (Urinary Incontinence) ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-bladder-symptoms — Symptoms & Causes of Bladder Control Problems (Urinary Incontinence)
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    • pelvic-floor
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    Official context
    platform
    NIDDK / NIH
    locator
    When should I see a health care professional?; Seek care right away; Causes
    scope
    Medical evaluation and urgent urinary symptoms.
    limitations
    Urinary context; not a complete pelvic-pain triage guide.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    last Reviewed
    2021-07
  8. Effects of heavy lifting on pelvic floor strength ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-lifting-discussion — Effects of heavy lifting on pelvic floor strength
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    • pelvic-floor
    role
    Community discussion
    platform
    Reddit r/xxfitness
    locator
    Deleted-user PT account; Rainyreflections; greedsan; ihadabunnynamedrexi breathing discussion
    scope
    Mixed first-person lifting experiences and taught cues.
    limitations
    Anonymous anecdotes; unsupported medical generalizations and promotion in other replies are not adopted.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    published On
    2020-04-08
    date Evidence
    Opened thread's calendar-specific Top Posts footer. Individual reply dates not inferred from relative labels.
  9. How many PT sessions did it take for you to start seeing improvement in Hypertonic pelvic floor? ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-progress-discussion — How many PT sessions did it take for you to start seeing improvement in Hypertonic pelvic floor?
    slugs
    • pelvic-floor
    role
    Community discussion
    platform
    Reddit r/PelvicFloor
    locator
    Original post; AriLovesMusic; deleted commenter describing month 3; ConversationThick379; OP replies about irritation
    scope
    Relief, slow progress and exercise irritation.
    limitations
    Different symptoms, concurrent treatments and self-reported diagnoses; no success-rate inference.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    published On
    2023-03-25
    date Evidence
    Opened thread's calendar-specific Top Posts footer; relative labels not converted.
  10. 1 month of pelvic floor therapy for Hypertonic PF ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-nonresponse-discussion — 1 month of pelvic floor therapy for Hypertonic PF
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    • pelvic-floor
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    Community discussion
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    Reddit r/PelvicFloor
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    Dependent_Age_2884 original post; visible reply
    scope
    Less perceived tightness without urinary symptom improvement.
    limitations
    One self-report; no clinical assessment or follow-up outcome.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    published On
    2024-09-24
    date Evidence
    Absolute date in search extract and calendar-specific footer agree.
  11. What is your Physical Therapy like? ↗

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    self22b8-pelvic-floor-cost-discussion — What is your Physical Therapy like?
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    • pelvic-floor
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    Community discussion
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    Reddit r/PelvicFloor
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    CrimsonDawn1970 original post; BlackberryTotal3126; Threelocos; luvrlyn; other session-description replies
    scope
    Reported weekly cost, session variation, partial and substantial relief, financial stopping.
    limitations
    One person's $200 charge is not a market price. Search calendar date and opened relative age conflict; no exact date is asserted in the card.
    accessed On
    2026-09-29
    indexed Publication Date
    2026-09-02
    date Evidence
    Calendar date appears in indexed search extract; opened page instead reports 14h ago. Publication date remains unconfirmed.
  12. Overactive pelvic floor ↗

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    portfolio-self-pelvic-nhs — Overactive pelvic floor
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    Official context
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    2026-09-23
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    search_text_inspected
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    Pelvic-floor symptoms can involve overactivity, so assessment and relaxation/coordination can matter as well as strengthening.
    limitations
    PDF search text inspected; no exercise prescription or diagnostic classification inferred for an individual.

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The pelvic floor is a group of muscles supporting pelvic organs and helping with functions such as bladder and bowel control. This topic covers assessment, coordination, strengthening and relaxation work.
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People look this up after leaking, pressure or discomfort during daily life or exercise. The useful distinction is whether the muscles need strength, relaxation or coordination; more squeezing is not automatically the answer.
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    Accounts consider how effort, exhaling and pelvic-floor control work together during daily tasks and lifting. [community]
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Pain, bleeding or new leakage warrants clinical assessment. A generic Kegel challenge cannot identify whether the muscles need strengthening, relaxation or other care.
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  • The job: leaks, heaviness, or pain around lifting, running, or postpartum — then a pelvic PT instead of a random squeeze program. [community]
  • r/PelvicFloor and r/xxfitness are the rooms. [community]
  • Kegels-for-everyone is the argument. Some people need down-training, not more squeeze. [community]
  • Instagram challenges are not an exam. [community]
how People Run It
  • See a pelvic PT if leaks, pain, or pressure are new. [community]
  • Stop copying a 10-minute Kegel reel as the whole plan. [community]
  • Change breathing on the next set — brace without a panic squeeze if that is what they were taught. [community]
amounts People Use
  • PT visits are the unit, not a hundred daily Kegels. [community]
  • A session is minutes, not a second workout identity. [community]
how People Keep It
  • Small version: one assessment, then the homework they were actually given. [community]
  • It fades when: they only squeeze in the car and never change the lift. [community]
how It Feels
  • Relief when someone names it. Then homework that is smaller than a program. [community]
how Long People Run It
  • Weeks of PT homework next to lifting, not a weekend challenge. [community]
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  • Strength is only one possible issue: Pelvic-floor muscles can be overactive or have difficulty relaxing as well as need strengthening. That helps explain why a generic Kegel challenge is an incomplete answer to leaks, pressure or pain. The useful starting distinction is assessment and coordination, not assuming every symptom means weakness. [professional]
  • Where symptoms appear: Accounts include postpartum changes, jumping, heavy lifting and ordinary daily activity. The symptom, timing and activity provide context for an assessment. Some discuss breathing during a lift as part of the plan they were taught, rather than assuming a hundred untested Kegels will solve the problem. One person's exercise or breathing instructions should not become a universal routine for everyone with symptoms. [community]
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  • Pain, blood, or a new leak is a clinician. [community]
  • Symptoms may need an examination: a written exercise description cannot assess an individual's pelvic-floor function. [community]
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      • Leaks and pressure, not a squeeze contest: People land here after a jump, a heavy set, or postpartum. The useful object is an assessment and breathing on the lift, not a hundred untested Kegels. [community]
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      • Pelvic-floor talk is leaks, pressure, and ‘do I squeeze or relax’ — lifters, postpartum, and desk people all land here, usually after a jump or a heavy set.
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      • People leak or feel pressure on a lift and need an assessment, not a hundred untested Kegels.
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        Exhale on effort shows up next to ‘stop holding your breath.’ [community]
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        Not only heavy squatters. [community]
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      • Pain, blood, or a new leak is a clinician. Instagram Kegel challenges are not an exam.
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    The pelvic floor is a group of muscles supporting pelvic organs and helping with functions such as bladder and bowel control. This topic covers assessment, coordination, strengthening and relaxation work.
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    People look this up after leaking, pressure or discomfort during daily life or exercise. The useful distinction is whether the muscles need strength, relaxation or coordination; more squeezing is not automatically the answer.
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      • The moving part is the hammock of muscle running from the front of the pelvis to the back. NIDDK's Kegel page, last reviewed in November 2021, says those muscles support the bladder, uterus, and rectum, and that training them is a squeeze, a hold, and a full release.
      • A generic squeeze plan misses the other half. NICE guideline NG210, published 9 December 2021, defines pelvic floor muscle training as work on strength, endurance, power, relaxation, or some mix of those. Supervision means a trained clinician checks whether the person can contract and whether they can relax. More tension is the wrong direction when the muscle will not let go.
      • This is not a video challenge and not a self-exam. NIDDK says finding the right muscles is often hard, and that a doctor, nurse, or pelvic floor therapist can check the squeeze. Stopping the urine once can locate the muscles. Practicing that stop during regular urination can leave the bladder partly full.
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      • Start with a check, not a rep total. NIDDK says to ask a health professional before beginning, because the exercises are sometimes a poor fit. If practice continues at home, find the muscles by imagining a stop to passing gas, and notice a pulling feeling. Squeeze only the pelvic floor. Leave the belly, thighs, and buttocks soft, and keep breathing.
      • Hold the squeeze for about 3 seconds. Release and let the pelvic floor go fully slack before the next one. NIDDK says to work up to 10 to 15 repetitions, in three positions across the day: lying down, sitting, and standing. One set can sit with breakfast, one while seated later, and one in bed. The page calls that about 5 minutes, three times a day.
      • Do not turn the urine stream into the workout. A midstream stop, used once, can teach the feeling. After that, practice with an empty bladder. If the squeeze is hard to feel, that is the reason for the visit. When a person cannot make an effective contraction, NICE says a supervised program can add biofeedback, electrical stimulation, or vaginal cones. Those are clinic tools, not a shopping list.
      • A normal session is those short sets, not a second gym identity. Keep a simple tally so the three sets happen. NIDDK says bladder control may not feel different for 3 to 6 weeks, and that piling on extra repetitions can lead to straining on the toilet.
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      • The practice is built around a check because the wrong muscle, or a muscle that cannot relax, changes every rep. NICE's 2021 guideline makes supervision the method. A physiotherapist or other clinician with this training assesses the contraction and the relaxation, fits the work to any discomfort, and offers at least one review during the program and one at the end. For stress or mixed urinary incontinence, the guideline's offer is a supervised program of at least 3 months.
      • For symptomatic pelvic organ prolapse that does not extend more than 1 cm past the hymen on straining, NICE says to consider at least 4 months of supervised training. NIDDK's home pattern is a starter, not a dare: 3-second holds, 10 to 15 repetitions, three positions a day, without endlessly adding reps. The common miss is a high-rep challenge that never includes a full relax, or a buttock squeeze the person can feel while the pelvic floor stays out of it.
      • Pain, bleeding, or a leak that is new is a reason for a clinician, not another set. A written description cannot tell strength from tension. The community notes hold the reports of leaks with lifting, running, or postpartum life, and the argument about training the muscles to let go. Those reports are not an assessment.
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