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Ecclesiastes 2:16 Explained in Context
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Verse 16. 16For there is no remembrance of the wise more than of the fool for ever; seeing that which now is in the days to come shall all be forgotten. And how dieth the wise man? as the fool.
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Quick Meaning
This verse explains that wise and foolish alike are forgotten and die.
Read It With
- Ecclesiastes 2:12-17
Read Ecclesiastes 2:16 with 2:12-17. This verse explains that wise and foolish alike are forgotten and die. The full unit establishes this movement: Wisdom truly surpasses folly like light surpasses darkness, yet the wise and fool share death and future forgetting, driving Qoheleth from comparative advantage to grief and hatred of life.
Why This Verse Appears Here
The section prevents a simplistic verdict: wisdom has real relative value, but relative value does not solve mortality or remembrance. Within that movement, this verse explains that wise and foolish alike are forgotten and die.
Follow the Context
- Qoheleth revisits wisdom and folly after the king's experiment.
- Wisdom is judged better, like light over darkness.
- The wise person's foresight cannot alter the shared event of death.
- Both wise and foolish are forgotten.
- The unresolved collision makes life and work grievous to the speaker.
Phrase-by-Phrase Explanation
“how dieth the wise man”
In plain language: The rhetorical shock that wisdom does not prevent the fool's mortal outcome.
explains that wise and foolish alike are forgotten and die. Memory and death erase the permanent distinction the investigator hoped wisdom would secure, though conduct still differs during life.
Why it matters: The wording carries interpretive or ethical risk requiring the complete unit and stated limits.
How certain? probableWhat This Verse Is Not Saying
The common death does not erase moral accountability or the effects of choices on others.
Forgetting by future people does not mean a life was unseen by God or without present value.
What Remains True
Memory and death erase the permanent distinction the investigator hoped wisdom would secure, though conduct still differs during life.
How It Can Shape Life
- Honor wisdom for present truth and service rather than as a route to fame or immortality.
Teach It Back
Explain Ecclesiastes 2:16's precise role in Ecclesiastes 2:12-17. Include the complete movement, one material uncertainty, and one conclusion the verse does not authorize.
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Continue in Context
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Read Ecclesiastes 2:12-17 — Wisdom Sees Better but Cannot Defeat DeathSources used for this Verse Lens
How certain is this explanation? probable
Where care is needed
'For ever' belongs to the remembered under-sun horizon and does not settle divine memory.
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Biblical text
King James (Authorized) Version — eng-kjv2006
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Supports: Exact displayed Scripture wording, paragraph markers, supplied-word markup, and complete verse coverage.
Exact location: Ecclesiastes 2:12-17, repository-pinned eng-kjv2006 USFM corpus
Open source ↗hebrew text and morphology
Open Scriptures Hebrew Bible: Ecclesiastes
Open Scriptures
Open Scriptures, release 2.2
Supports: Masoretic Hebrew wording and morphology used for lexical, grammatical, repeated-word, and translation questions.
Exact location: Open Scriptures MorphHB v2.2, commit 6a5db284c715c18b239422e57bb89684e6a19f00, wlc/Eccl.xml, 2:12-17
Open source ↗translation and translator notes
NET Bible: Ecclesiastes with translators' notes
Biblical Studies Press
Biblical Studies Press, 2006
Supports: Verse-level textual, grammatical, lexical, literary, and translation alternatives.
Exact location: NET Bible Ecclesiastes PDF, printed pp. 1192-1193, translation and notes on 2:12-17
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