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Proverbs 17:5–8, King James Version

Proverbs 17:5–8

Wealth, poverty, provision, and economic power — Whoso mocketh the poor reproacheth his Maker: and he that…

Mocking the poor insults their Maker; glee at calamity will not go unpunished

Whoever mocks the poor reproaches their Maker; whoever is glad at calamities will not be unpunished. The poor person is not a joke. God takes the mock as aimed at himself. Taking pleasure in a crash — anyone's crash — is a second crime. This line forbids contempt, disaster-tourism, and the sermon that treats a neighbor's ruin as entertainment or as proof.

Grandchildren crown the old; a fool's fine speech still does not fit; a bribe looks like a gem to the one holding it

Children's children are the crown of the old, and the glory of children is their fathers. Excellent speech does not fit a fool; still less do lying lips fit a prince. A gift is a precious stone in the eyes of the one who has it; wherever it turns, it prospers. Family honor runs both directions, and it is a hope, not a guarantee of descendants and not a shame on the childless. A prince's lie is more grotesque than a fool's polish. The bribe-gem sparkles because the holder wants it to. Apparent success is not a moral argument.

How this should shape us

Shut the joke that needs a poor person in it. Do not cheer a calamity. Speak as your office requires, especially if you hold power. Treat a gift that steers a judgment as a stone that will turn on you.

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Explain Proverbs 17:5–8 in your own words. Identify its form and collection, trace one line from role through contextual meaning and enduring truth to application, name one uncertainty, and reject one misuse explicitly.

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Best judgment: Interpreters disagree over how much literary meaning adjacent sentence sayings gain from small clusters. This package treats Proverbs 17:5–8 as a useful local cluster while preserving each saying's independent force and marking the boundary as revisable.

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King James (Authorized) Version — eng-kjv2006

Supports: Exact displayed KJV words, canonical order, paragraph flags, supplied-word markup, and complete unit coverage.

Proverbs 17:5–8, repository-pinned eng-kjv2006 USFM-derived corpus

Open Scriptures Hebrew Bible: Proverbs

Supports: Masoretic Hebrew wording and morphology used only for the exact unit's lexical, grammatical, parallel, superscription, number-saying, and acrostic questions.

Open Scriptures MorphHB v2.2, commit 6a5db284c715c18b239422e57bb89684e6a19f00, wlc/Prov.xml, OSIS 17:5-17:8

NET Bible: Proverbs with translators' notes

Supports: Verse-attached textual, lexical, grammatical, syntactic, parallelism, and older-English controls for the exact range.

NET Bible Proverbs PDF, printed pp. 1129-1132, exact tc/tn/sn entries attached to 17:5–8

Proverbs

Supports: Whole-book and collection orientation, local commentary, social-setting proposals, and named interpretation limits.

Aitken, ‘Proverbs,’ Oxford Bible Commentary, printed pp. 405-422, subsection covering 17:5–8 and the First Solomonic sentence-saying collection outline

Context in the Sayings Collections

Supports: Abstract-level control for the dispute over individual-saying, small-cluster, and collection context; no uninspected detailed claim.

Weeks, ‘Context in the Sayings Collections,’ Early Israelite Wisdom (2000), official abstract and chapter pp. 20-40; methodological question applied to Proverbs 17:5–8

The situational context of statements concerning poverty and wealth in the Book of Proverbs

Supports: One historical-social account of poverty, wealth, interest, oppression, labor, and differing evaluations within the collection.

Wittenberg, ‘Situational context of statements concerning poverty and wealth,’ Scriptura 21, pp. 1-23, especially the sayings and redactional comparison relevant to Proverbs 17:5–8

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King James (Authorized) Version — eng-kjv2006

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USFM archive eng-kjv2006_usfm.zip; source files dated 2026-08-19; downloaded 2026-08-24; archive SHA-256 aec1b3b26c622fd3d963d2bbac963016b9513246ffbfa20da00bb100372ea007; normalized corpus SHA-256 09aef51d90488aa7b9722b3fd9a93f4b25f6bf2064c5fd798fb39673c300ddf2.

Supports: Exact displayed KJV words, canonical order, paragraph flags, supplied-word markup, and complete unit coverage.

Exact location: Proverbs 17:5–8, repository-pinned eng-kjv2006 USFM-derived corpus

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hebrew text and morphology

Open Scriptures Hebrew Bible: Proverbs

Open Scriptures

Open Scriptures, release 2.2

Supports: Masoretic Hebrew wording and morphology used only for the exact unit's lexical, grammatical, parallel, superscription, number-saying, and acrostic questions.

Exact location: Open Scriptures MorphHB v2.2, commit 6a5db284c715c18b239422e57bb89684e6a19f00, wlc/Prov.xml, OSIS 17:5-17:8

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translation and translator notes

NET Bible: Proverbs with translators' notes

Biblical Studies Press

Biblical Studies Press, 2006

Supports: Verse-attached textual, lexical, grammatical, syntactic, parallelism, and older-English controls for the exact range.

Exact location: NET Bible Proverbs PDF, printed pp. 1129-1132, exact tc/tn/sn entries attached to 17:5–8

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modern critical commentary

Proverbs

K. T. Aitken

Oxford University Press, in The Oxford Bible Commentary, 2001

Supports: Whole-book and collection orientation, local commentary, social-setting proposals, and named interpretation limits.

Exact location: Aitken, ‘Proverbs,’ Oxford Bible Commentary, printed pp. 405-422, subsection covering 17:5–8 and the First Solomonic sentence-saying collection outline

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scholarly monograph chapter abstract and metadata

Context in the Sayings Collections

Stuart Weeks

Oxford University Press, in Early Israelite Wisdom, 2000

Supports: Abstract-level control for the dispute over individual-saying, small-cluster, and collection context; no uninspected detailed claim.

Exact location: Weeks, ‘Context in the Sayings Collections,’ Early Israelite Wisdom (2000), official abstract and chapter pp. 20-40; methodological question applied to Proverbs 17:5–8

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peer reviewed open access journal article

The situational context of statements concerning poverty and wealth in the Book of Proverbs

G. H. Wittenberg

Scriptura 21, 1987; open archive 2020

Supports: One historical-social account of poverty, wealth, interest, oppression, labor, and differing evaluations within the collection.

Exact location: Wittenberg, ‘Situational context of statements concerning poverty and wealth,’ Scriptura 21, pp. 1-23, especially the sayings and redactional comparison relevant to Proverbs 17:5–8

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