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Daniel 8:5-8, King James Version
Italic words were supplied in the English translation for clarity.
Daniel 8:5-8
The Goat Defeats the Ram and Fractures
A western goat shatters the ram, then shatters itself
As Daniel considers, a he goat comes from the west on the face of the whole earth and does not touch the ground. The goat has a notable horn between his eyes. He runs to the ram in the fury of his power, smites him, breaks his two horns, casts him to the ground, and stamps upon him. None can deliver the ram.
The goat waxes very great. When he is strong, the great horn is broken, and for it come up four notable ones toward the four winds of heaven. Speed, a single leader, total victory, then fracture: the vision refuses to let one conqueror's greatness last.
The goat's career is named later as Greece
Gabriel will identify the notable horn with the first king of Grecia and the four horns with four kingdoms that stand up after him, but not in his power. The usual historical horizon is Alexander's campaign and the successor kingdoms. That is an ancient imperial story.
Broken horns are not a prompt to hunt a modern Alexander, NATO, or any living western state. The vision's west is the goat's origin relative to Persia, not a racial compass.
How this should shape us
Do not confuse stunning success with a durable order. Let a leader's fall and a realm's split remain a warning about concentrated power, not a code for your century's alliances.
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Where do careful interpreters disagree?
Best judgment: Readers debate the count as 2,300 days or 1,150 pairs of offerings, exact start and end, referent of the host, and whether later fulfillment extends beyond Antiochus. The package refuses a modern countdown.
How certain? probableResearch trail and exact locationsThe source record behind this section
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Daniel 8:5-8, pinned eng-kjv2006 USFM corpus
Supports: Masoretic Hebrew-Aramaic wording, morphology, language boundary, names, repeated roots, clauses, and lexical controls.
Open Scriptures MorphHB v.2.2, commit 6a5db284c715c18b239422e57bb89684e6a19f00, wlc/Dan.xml, 8:5-8; Hebrew 1:1–2:4a and 8:1–12:13, Aramaic 2:4b–7:28
Supports: Verse-level Hebrew-Aramaic, textual, historical, translation, chronology, angelic-language, and duration notes.
NET Bible Daniel PDF, printed pp. 1660–1662, translation and translator notes on 8:5-8
Supports: Bilingual form, genres, composition, imperial settings, Antiochus IV, four kingdoms, seventy weeks, resurrection, and major critical alternatives.
P. R. Davies, 'Daniel,' Oxford Bible Commentary, printed pp. 563–571; chapter-level discussion applied to 8:5-8
Supports: Two major Greek editions, substantial chapters 4–6 differences, numbering, wording, order, and additions outside the pinned KJV mapping.
McLay, NETS Daniel, introduction printed pp. 991–994 and parallel Old Greek/Theodotion translation pp. 995–1025; 8:5-8
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King James (Authorized) Version — eng-kjv2006
eBible.org and CrossWire Bible Society
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Supports: Exact reader-facing KJV wording, paragraph markers, supplied-word markup, and complete verse coverage.
Exact location: Daniel 8:5-8, pinned eng-kjv2006 USFM corpus
Open source ↗hebrew aramaic text and morphology
Open Scriptures Hebrew Bible: Daniel
Open Scriptures
Open Scriptures, release 2.2
Supports: Masoretic Hebrew-Aramaic wording, morphology, language boundary, names, repeated roots, clauses, and lexical controls.
Exact location: Open Scriptures MorphHB v.2.2, commit 6a5db284c715c18b239422e57bb89684e6a19f00, wlc/Dan.xml, 8:5-8; Hebrew 1:1–2:4a and 8:1–12:13, Aramaic 2:4b–7:28
Open source ↗translation and translator notes
NET Bible: Daniel with translators' notes
Biblical Studies Press
Biblical Studies Press, 2006
Supports: Verse-level Hebrew-Aramaic, textual, historical, translation, chronology, angelic-language, and duration notes.
Exact location: NET Bible Daniel PDF, printed pp. 1660–1662, translation and translator notes on 8:5-8
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Daniel
Philip R. Davies
Oxford University Press, in The Oxford Bible Commentary, edited by John Barton and John Muddiman, 2001
Supports: Bilingual form, genres, composition, imperial settings, Antiochus IV, four kingdoms, seventy weeks, resurrection, and major critical alternatives.
Exact location: P. R. Davies, 'Daniel,' Oxford Bible Commentary, printed pp. 563–571; chapter-level discussion applied to 8:5-8
Open source ↗greek text translation and introduction
A New English Translation of the Septuagint: Daniel
R. Timothy McLay
Oxford University Press for the International Organization for Septuagint and Cognate Studies, 2009, electronic corrections through 2014
Supports: Two major Greek editions, substantial chapters 4–6 differences, numbering, wording, order, and additions outside the pinned KJV mapping.
Exact location: McLay, NETS Daniel, introduction printed pp. 991–994 and parallel Old Greek/Theodotion translation pp. 995–1025; 8:5-8
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