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Proverbs 30:15–17, King James Version

Proverbs 30:15–17

Insatiable desires counted

The Main Point

contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.”

What Is Happening Here?

Agur's confession and prayer lead to warnings, insatiable desires, mysteries, social inversions, small wise creatures, stately movement, and the need to stop escalating conflict. In this unit, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.”

What Came Before—and What Comes Next?

What came before

Proverbs 30:10–14 (“Humility, teachability, pride, and reputation — Accuse not a servant unto his master, lest he curse thee,...”) immediately precedes this unit and contributes humility, teachability, pride, and reputation, justice, truthful judgment, and protection from exploitation, family teaching, responsibility, and mutual care.

What comes next

Proverbs 30:18–20 (“Four ways too wonderful to trace”) follows and develops observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life, gendered imagery, sexual fidelity, consent, and household agency, speech, listening, truth, and relational consequence.

Stage 2 of 4

Follow the Wisdom Collection

See why this section appears here and how the author's wisdom movement leads to its meaning.

Why Is This Passage Here?

The edited sequence places this unit after Proverbs 30:10–14 so that humility, teachability, pride, and reputation, justice, truthful judgment, and protection from exploitation, family teaching, responsibility, and mutual care is tested or extended through generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life.

Follow the Saying or Discourse

  1. Opening (30:15): the unit contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”.

  2. Development (30:15–17): adjacent lines test generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life through parallelism, contrast, motive, image, or consequence.

  3. Close (30:17): the unit contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”, creating the next supported pause.

What Is the Author Saying?

Within words of agur and numbered observations, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.” The sayings function as context-shaped instruction and observation: general patterns are not automatic guarantees, commands stay bounded by their ancient role, and an individual line must not erase the edited collection around it.

Why This Interpretation Fits

Exact verse-level work

Every line in Proverbs 30:15–17 retains its own Verse Lens role and does not borrow a neighboring verse's claim.

Collection context

The superscription and placement identify this unit inside “Words of Agur and numbered observations”: Agur confesses human limits, prays for truthful sufficiency, condemns arrogant appetite, and studies creatures, social inversions, and escalating conflict through compact numerical sayings.

Proverbial proportion

The unit's instruction and observations concern generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life; they describe moral direction without explaining every exceptional outcome.

Stage 3 of 4

Understand the Meaning and Its Boundaries

Clarify the words that matter and keep the conclusion no broader than the passage allows.

Words That Matter

“The horseleach hath two daughters, crying,...”

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This exact opening wording anchors the first move in Proverbs 30:15–17; later lines in the unit must not replace its distinct role.

What the Passage Is Not Saying

Reading Proverbs 30:15–17 as edited wisdom rather than a detached formula rules out these uses:

The saying does not promise a financial return, compel giving under manipulation, erase prudent limits, or let charity substitute for justice.

The saying does not threaten vulnerable people, blame a person's death or illness on folly, romanticize self-harm, or promise that wisdom prevents every tragedy.

The saying does not provide a scientific taxonomy, sanction cruelty to animals, or make one poetic comparison a law of nature or society.

The unit does not turn a normal wisdom pattern into a universal promise, a complete causal explanation of suffering, or a mandate broader than Proverbs 30:15–17.

Context check: Within words of agur and numbered observations, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.” The sayings function as context-shaped instruction and observation: general patterns are not automatic guarantees, commands stay bounded by their ancient role, and an individual line must not erase the edited collection around it.

What Remains True Today

Wisdom treats timely material care and openhandedness as moral practices, not merely private feeling. Proverbs traces the cumulative direction of choices toward life-giving order or destructive consequence without claiming to explain every death or survival. Creaturely and everyday observations train analogy and proportion; the comparison teaches a feature without making every detail identical. These truths remain proportionate only when the proverb's literary form, affected people, exceptions, and wider fear-of-the-LORD frame remain visible.

Stage 4 of 4

Respond and Remember

Let the meaning shape life carefully, then practice explaining the section in context.

How This Should Shape Us

Why these applications follow
Text

Role -> contextual meaning -> enduring truth -> application for Proverbs 30:15–17.

Meaning in context

Within words of agur and numbered observations, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.” The sayings function as context-shaped instruction and observation: general patterns are not automatic guarantees, commands stay bounded by their ancient role, and an individual line must not erase the edited collection around it.

What remains true

Wisdom treats timely material care and openhandedness as moral practices, not merely private feeling. Proverbs traces the cumulative direction of choices toward life-giving order or destructive consequence without claiming to explain every death or survival. Creaturely and everyday observations train analogy and proportion; the comparison teaches a feature without making every detail identical. These truths remain proportionate only when the proverb's literary form, affected people, exceptions, and wider fear-of-the-LORD frame remain visible.

How does the application follow proportionately?

Identify the concrete need, preserve the recipient's agency, give transparently, and combine immediate help with fair structures. Choose the option that protects life, reduces foreseeable harm, preserves access to help, and keeps long-term consequences visible. Name the exact feature being compared, observe its limits, and test whether the analogy clarifies rather than stereotypes. For 30:15–17, begin with the line's actual role, state its contextual meaning, name this bounded enduring truth, and only then choose an action that protects dignity, safety, justice, and teachability.

A Concrete Example

A reader applying Proverbs 30:15–17 should first quote the line's actual contrast or image, then describe its work inside “Insatiable desires counted,” state the proportionate truth, name an exception or vulnerable person, and choose one accountable action rather than repeating a slogan.

Teach It Back

Explain Proverbs 30:15–17 in your own words. Identify its form and collection, trace one line from role through contextual meaning and enduring truth to application, name one uncertainty, and reject one misuse explicitly.

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Read it sentence by sentenceEach line inside the larger movement
Proverbs 30:15–17

Exact verse-level work

Every line in Proverbs 30:15–17 retains its own Verse Lens role and does not borrow a neighboring verse's claim.

Proverbs 30:15–17

Collection context

The superscription and placement identify this unit inside “Words of Agur and numbered observations”: Agur confesses human limits, prays for truthful sufficiency, condemns arrogant appetite, and studies creatures, social inversions, and escalating conflict through compact numerical sayings.

Proverbs 30:15–17

Proverbial proportion

The unit's instruction and observations concern generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life; they describe moral direction without explaining every exceptional outcome.

Original-language wording and grammarTechnical detail appears only where it helps

“The horseleach hath two daughters, crying,...”

This exact opening wording anchors the first move in Proverbs 30:15–17; later lines in the unit must not replace its distinct role.

How certain? very strong
What the first readers would have understoodRelevant history and culture

Edited wisdom and social setting

This unit belongs to words of agur and numbered observations. Aitken's printed pages 405-422 and the book-specific sources identify family, community, agricultural, commercial, scribal, court, and royal settings as relevant possibilities without proving one setting for every saying.

How certain? probable
Why translations sometimes differMaterial translation choices

No older-English term in this unit requires a separate reader note after reading the complete KJV line in context.

Earlier Scripture and inherited backgroundSupported quotations, allusions, and inherited ideas

Israelite wisdom setting

The unit's first horizon is Israel's wisdom collection under fear of the LORD. Torah-shaped justice, creation, household teaching, royal responsibility, and community life may inform the language, but no cross-reference overrides this unit's own parallelism and collection role.

How certain? probable
How this connects with the rest of ScriptureThe passage's own meaning remains primary

Responsible canonical location

Within the received book, Agur confesses human limits, prays for truthful sufficiency, condemns arrogant appetite, and studies creatures, social inversions, and escalating conflict through compact numerical sayings. This local unit is read through that movement before broader canonical comparison.

How certain? probable
Textual variantsManuscript differences only when they affect meaning

Textual and translation review

The complete NET notes attached to Proverbs 30:15–17 were inspected alongside MorphHB. No unreviewed alternative replaces the pinned KJV; any verse whose wording materially affects interpretation carries an expanded Lens and visible uncertainty rather than a silent emendation.

How certain? probable
Where careful interpreters disagreeThe strongest options and their difficulties

Where do careful readers disagree?

Best judgment: The unit's speaker, literary form, imagery, or arrangement carries named uncertainty. The judgment follows the received sequence without inventing a biography or forcing every image into one allegory.

How certain? probable
Theology that emerges from this passageConclusions drawn after reading the complete section

Theological contribution

The unit places practical wisdom under a moral order answerable to the LORD: Wisdom treats timely material care and openhandedness as moral practices, not merely private feeling. Proverbs traces the cumulative direction of choices toward life-giving order or destructive consequence without claiming to explain every death or survival. Creaturely and everyday observations train analogy and proportion; the comparison teaches a feature without making every detail identical.

How certain? strong

Theological contribution

Within Words of Agur and numbered observations, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.”

How certain? strong
Common ways this passage gets misusedFair explanation, context check, and stronger reading

The saying does not promise a financial return, compel giving under manipulation, erase prudent limits, or let charity substitute for justice.

Why it is attractive

A compact saying is easy to detach and universalize.

What context changes

Within words of agur and numbered observations, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.” The sayings function as context-shaped instruction and observation: general patterns are not automatic guarantees, commands stay bounded by their ancient role, and an individual line must not erase the edited collection around it.

A stronger reading

Wisdom treats timely material care and openhandedness as moral practices, not merely private feeling. Proverbs traces the cumulative direction of choices toward life-giving order or destructive consequence without claiming to explain every death or survival. Creaturely and everyday observations train analogy and proportion; the comparison teaches a feature without making every detail identical. These truths remain proportionate only when the proverb's literary form, affected people, exceptions, and wider fear-of-the-LORD frame remain visible.

What truth can remain

The context-supported contribution remains: contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.”

The saying does not threaten vulnerable people, blame a person's death or illness on folly, romanticize self-harm, or promise that wisdom prevents every tragedy.

Why it is attractive

An ancient authority, household, wealth, gender, or consequence image can be imported into modern power without following the interpretation chain.

What context changes

Within words of agur and numbered observations, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.” The sayings function as context-shaped instruction and observation: general patterns are not automatic guarantees, commands stay bounded by their ancient role, and an individual line must not erase the edited collection around it.

A stronger reading

Wisdom treats timely material care and openhandedness as moral practices, not merely private feeling. Proverbs traces the cumulative direction of choices toward life-giving order or destructive consequence without claiming to explain every death or survival. Creaturely and everyday observations train analogy and proportion; the comparison teaches a feature without making every detail identical. These truths remain proportionate only when the proverb's literary form, affected people, exceptions, and wider fear-of-the-LORD frame remain visible.

What truth can remain

The context-supported contribution remains: contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.”

The saying does not provide a scientific taxonomy, sanction cruelty to animals, or make one poetic comparison a law of nature or society.

Why it is attractive

An ancient authority, household, wealth, gender, or consequence image can be imported into modern power without following the interpretation chain.

What context changes

Within words of agur and numbered observations, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.” The sayings function as context-shaped instruction and observation: general patterns are not automatic guarantees, commands stay bounded by their ancient role, and an individual line must not erase the edited collection around it.

A stronger reading

Wisdom treats timely material care and openhandedness as moral practices, not merely private feeling. Proverbs traces the cumulative direction of choices toward life-giving order or destructive consequence without claiming to explain every death or survival. Creaturely and everyday observations train analogy and proportion; the comparison teaches a feature without making every detail identical. These truths remain proportionate only when the proverb's literary form, affected people, exceptions, and wider fear-of-the-LORD frame remain visible.

What truth can remain

The context-supported contribution remains: contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.”

The unit does not turn a normal wisdom pattern into a universal promise, a complete causal explanation of suffering, or a mandate broader than Proverbs 30:15–17.

Why it is attractive

An ancient authority, household, wealth, gender, or consequence image can be imported into modern power without following the interpretation chain.

What context changes

Within words of agur and numbered observations, contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.” The sayings function as context-shaped instruction and observation: general patterns are not automatic guarantees, commands stay bounded by their ancient role, and an individual line must not erase the edited collection around it.

A stronger reading

Wisdom treats timely material care and openhandedness as moral practices, not merely private feeling. Proverbs traces the cumulative direction of choices toward life-giving order or destructive consequence without claiming to explain every death or survival. Creaturely and everyday observations train analogy and proportion; the comparison teaches a feature without making every detail identical. These truths remain proportionate only when the proverb's literary form, affected people, exceptions, and wider fear-of-the-LORD frame remain visible.

What truth can remain

The context-supported contribution remains: contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea,...”; by 30:17, it contributes the claim, image, or instruction “The eye that mocketh at his father, and despiseth to obey his mother, the ravens of the valley shall pick it...”. Together the unit concentrates on generosity, neighbor-care, and material responsibility, life, death, safety, and the long direction of choices, observational wisdom drawn from creatures and ordinary life within “Words of Agur and numbered observations.”

Research trail and exact locationsThe source record behind this section
King James (Authorized) Version — eng-kjv2006

Supports: Exact displayed KJV words, canonical order, paragraph flags, supplied-word markup, and complete unit coverage.

Proverbs 30:15–17, repository-pinned eng-kjv2006 USFM-derived corpus

Open Scriptures Hebrew Bible: Proverbs

Supports: Masoretic Hebrew wording and morphology used only for the exact unit's lexical, grammatical, parallel, superscription, number-saying, and acrostic questions.

Open Scriptures MorphHB v2.2, commit 6a5db284c715c18b239422e57bb89684e6a19f00, wlc/Prov.xml, OSIS 30:15-30:17

NET Bible: Proverbs with translators' notes

Supports: Verse-attached textual, lexical, grammatical, syntactic, parallelism, and older-English controls for the exact range.

NET Bible Proverbs PDF, printed pp. 1178-1181, exact tc/tn/sn entries attached to 30:15–17

Proverbs

Supports: Whole-book and collection orientation, local commentary, social-setting proposals, and named interpretation limits.

Aitken, ‘Proverbs,’ Oxford Bible Commentary, printed pp. 405-422, subsection covering 30:15–17 and the Words of Agur and numbered observations outline

The situational context of statements concerning poverty and wealth in the Book of Proverbs

Supports: One historical-social account of poverty, wealth, interest, oppression, labor, and differing evaluations within the collection.

Wittenberg, ‘Situational context of statements concerning poverty and wealth,’ Scriptura 21, pp. 1-23, especially the sayings and redactional comparison relevant to Proverbs 30:15–17

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Biblical text

King James (Authorized) Version — eng-kjv2006

eBible.org and CrossWire Bible Society

USFM archive eng-kjv2006_usfm.zip; source files dated 2026-08-19; downloaded 2026-08-24; archive SHA-256 aec1b3b26c622fd3d963d2bbac963016b9513246ffbfa20da00bb100372ea007; normalized corpus SHA-256 09aef51d90488aa7b9722b3fd9a93f4b25f6bf2064c5fd798fb39673c300ddf2.

Supports: Exact displayed KJV words, canonical order, paragraph flags, supplied-word markup, and complete unit coverage.

Exact location: Proverbs 30:15–17, repository-pinned eng-kjv2006 USFM-derived corpus

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hebrew text and morphology

Open Scriptures Hebrew Bible: Proverbs

Open Scriptures

Open Scriptures, release 2.2

Supports: Masoretic Hebrew wording and morphology used only for the exact unit's lexical, grammatical, parallel, superscription, number-saying, and acrostic questions.

Exact location: Open Scriptures MorphHB v2.2, commit 6a5db284c715c18b239422e57bb89684e6a19f00, wlc/Prov.xml, OSIS 30:15-30:17

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translation and translator notes

NET Bible: Proverbs with translators' notes

Biblical Studies Press

Biblical Studies Press, 2006

Supports: Verse-attached textual, lexical, grammatical, syntactic, parallelism, and older-English controls for the exact range.

Exact location: NET Bible Proverbs PDF, printed pp. 1178-1181, exact tc/tn/sn entries attached to 30:15–17

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modern critical commentary

Proverbs

K. T. Aitken

Oxford University Press, in The Oxford Bible Commentary, 2001

Supports: Whole-book and collection orientation, local commentary, social-setting proposals, and named interpretation limits.

Exact location: Aitken, ‘Proverbs,’ Oxford Bible Commentary, printed pp. 405-422, subsection covering 30:15–17 and the Words of Agur and numbered observations outline

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peer reviewed open access journal article

The situational context of statements concerning poverty and wealth in the Book of Proverbs

G. H. Wittenberg

Scriptura 21, 1987; open archive 2020

Supports: One historical-social account of poverty, wealth, interest, oppression, labor, and differing evaluations within the collection.

Exact location: Wittenberg, ‘Situational context of statements concerning poverty and wealth,’ Scriptura 21, pp. 1-23, especially the sayings and redactional comparison relevant to Proverbs 30:15–17

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