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Cardarine
Also known as
GW501516 · GW-501516 · GW 501516 · GW1516 · GW-1516 · GW 1516 · GW-501,516 · GSK-516 · Endurobol · Cardarine (Endurobol)
Community talk. May be wrong. Not medical advice. Not a protocol. Not for human or animal use.
Systemic — oral GW501516 is a PPARδ agonist, not a SARM; endurance and lipid discussion carries an unresolved rodent tumor warning.
Placebo-controlled study in 24 healthy men.
Placebo-controlled study in 268 participants; lipid endpoints do not establish long-term safety.
Repeated in bodybuilding and endurance discussions; gray-market identity and reporting are unverified.
Abuse-pattern summaries, not an approved medical regimen or risk-safe cycle.
Occasional forum claim, not a trial arm; route, identity, absorption and oral equivalence are unverified.
Half-life & effect duration
- Half-life in the body
- Community / secondary estimateAbout 12–24 hours
- Felt duration people report
- Endurance reportsChanges within a week in some accounts; no effect after about 2 weeks in another
- Other experiencesAnxiety by days 7–9, or lower energy for weeks after stopping
Tap a line to jump into the full notes. Research only — may be wrong.
Timing context & sources
Half-life in the body
The checked public primary human reports did not establish an elimination half-life.
They document once-daily oral study designs at 2.5–10 mg over two or twelve weeks, which is not itself a half-life measurement.
Absence from the checked reports is not proof that no PK study exists; secondary 12–24-hour claims were not promoted to a measured value.
- The PPARδ agonist GW501516 raises HDL and affects lipoprotein metabolism in healthy volunteers (opens in a new tab)PubMed abstract: 24 healthy men assigned placebo, 2.5 mg or 10 mg GW501516 orally once daily for two weeks; lipid and metabolic endpoints.Small, short study; does not report a human elimination half-life, long-term safety, endurance performance, or gray-market product identity.
- Effects of the PPARδ agonist GW501516 on lipoprotein metabolism in dyslipidemic subjects (opens in a new tab)PubMed abstract: 268 participants with low HDL received placebo or 2.5, 5, or 10 mg orally once daily for 12 weeks; lipid endpoints reported.Short metabolic study and sponsor-development context; no public half-life in the inspected abstract and no long-term carcinogenicity resolution.
Felt duration people report
The inspected accounts do not establish a dependable single-dose felt duration.
Some reported endurance changes within a week, one reported anxiety by days seven to nine, another reported no effect after about two weeks, and one described lower energy for weeks after stopping a six-week course.
Training adaptation, expectancy, product identity, dose, co-use and selection bias prevent causal timing or prevalence estimates.
- Cardarine journey (opens in a new tab)ExternalJob reported no clear benefit on days 1 and 6 or at about two weeks and described unchanged resting heart rate; a different positive reply included phenibut co-use.Anonymous, unverified products and uncontrolled training; one positive report includes another drug, and the original poster did not report a racing-heart measurement.
- GW501516/Cardarine — amazing cardio benefits but unexpected anxiety (opens in a new tab)A 43-year-old CrossFit participant reported a training increase, endurance by about day seven and nervousness or anxiety by day nine, then stopping on day ten.Single anonymous report with unverified product and training confounding; no racing-heart measurement was reported, and the restart plan was not a completed follow-up.
- 6-week cycle of cardarine GW501516 (opens in a new tab)The poster claimed 20 mg/day for six weeks, stated that nothing else was used, described easier running/endurance, then lower energy, motivation and sharpness after stopping.Single anonymous self-report, unverified product and dose, no control group; a co-use denial is not verification and post-stop symptoms cannot establish withdrawal or causality.
Other context in this card
- USADA — What Should Tested Athletes Know About GW1516? (opens in a new tab)Identity and legal-status sections: GW1516/cardarine is a PPARδ agonist often mis-marketed as a SARM, prohibited in sport, and not available as an approved medication.Anti-doping education source, not a primary pharmacokinetic study; safety summary should be read alongside primary human and animal records.
What people say
- Endurance (community): Most repeated payoff — longer steady-state cardio, less perceived effort at familiar paces, delayed “bonk,” more weekly cardio volume before fatigue caps sessions. Not a caffeine-style kick. forumanecdote
- Fat-loss / recomp talk: Forums treat it as a cut/recomp assist when diet and steps are already dialed — rarely as a solo “melt fat without deficit” drug. Attribution is heavily confounded by stacks, stims, and cardio volume. forum
- Non-androgenic profile: No classic AAS sides (acne, hairline, voice, HPTA shutdown from androgen receptor agonism). Core appeal for users who want cardio/metabolic help without a full steroid stack. forum
- Tren / harsh-androgen cardio offset: Recurring PED lore — cardarine co-run to blunt trenbolone’s notorious cardio-crush so prep cardio stays doable. Uncontrolled, confounded, and risk-additive. forumanecdote
- Volume tolerance: Logs claim more frequent LISS/HIIT before fatigue limits; hard to separate from training adaptation. anecdote
- Evidence honesty on benefits: Strongest controlled human signals are short-window lipids / hepatic fat / fat-ox markers at 2.5–10 mg. “Race-day endurance miracle” and large fat-loss claims are mostly animal + anecdote. trialforum
- 2025–26 “lipid support on a SARM cycle”: r/SARMs still asks whether low-dose GW can offset LGD/ostarine HDL crash. Trial GW raised HDL in clean settings; it does not cancel stacked oral-SARM lipid damage or the tumor file. forumtrial
- “Third lung” logs: 2026 cut diaries still lead with easier incline walks and race-block cardio, then the cancer googling. Confounded by the rest of the stack. forumanecdote
- Mouse / rodent endurance: High-profile Evans-lab and follow-on work: PPARδ activation and GW501516 regimens dramatically improved running performance; Kunming-mouse metabolomic work reported large running-distance gains and higher SDH-positive oxidative fiber share in both trained and untrained animals (community summaries often say “nearly doubled” distance — check primary figure for exact group means). animal
- Fuel shift / fat oxidation (human short trials): Daily 2.5 mg and 10 mg for ~2 weeks improved skeletal-muscle fat utilization markers and post–high-fat-meal triglyceride handling vs placebo in healthy men. trial
- Lipids — Phase 1 healthy men (2 weeks): Placebo vs 2.5 mg vs 10 mg/day in 24 men — significant HDL increase and triglyceride reduction; described as well tolerated over that window with no meaningful liver-enzyme or muscle-protein AE signal in the published report. trial
- Lipids / hepatic fat — small overweight cohort: ~10 mg/day × 2 weeks in six moderately overweight subjects — fasting TG, apoB, LDL-C, and insulin down; ~20% reduction in liver fat content and ~30% drop in urinary isoprostanes reported; skeletal-muscle CPT1b expression up. trial
- Lipids — larger Phase 2 dyslipidemia trial: Once-daily GW501516 2.5 / 5 / 10 mg or placebo for 12 weeks (n≈268, low HDL entry) — HDL-C increases up to ~16.9% at 10 mg and apoA-I increases up to ~6.6%; LDL and other atherogenic markers also moved favorably in published ATVB write-up. trial
- Lipoprotein kinetics (dyslipidemic men): ~2.5 mg/day in centrally obese dyslipidemic men — VLDL catabolism up, apoA-I/A-II production shifts, apoC-III and LDL-apoB production down; CETP activity decreased; insulin resistance not clearly fixed in that design. trial
- Primate lipids: Obese rhesus monkeys — HDL up, VLDL/LDL-type lipid improvements, lower serum insulin signals in classic preclinical work. animal
- Not a mass builder: Even sympathetic write-ups note little hypertrophy signal; anti-catabolic framing is soft and secondary to endurance/lipids. forumtrial
- Lipids (human programs): Phase 2-era discussions often cite HDL-raising effects around the 10 mg oral band in lipids trials — separate from cancer risk debates. trial
Doses people talk about
- Community “standard”: ~10 mg oral once daily is the most repeated bodybuilding/endurance forum default. forum
- Community common performance band: ~10–20 mg/day total — widely echoed in logs, vendor charts, and anti-doping abuse summaries. forumtrial
- Lower / risk-aware / smaller-user band: ~5–10 mg/day; some women’s-focused secondary write-ups cluster 5–10 mg. Still research-chem territory, not a validated sex-specific regimen. forum
- Upper community talk: 15–20 mg/day advanced/contest logs; occasional higher experimental totals appear but are not the modal advice and sit closer to HED-margin debates from rodent tumor doses. forumanecdote
- Once daily vs split: Trials used once-daily oral. Forums usually keep 10 mg QD; at ~15–20 mg some split AM/PM for habit or GI tolerance, not because of a published short half-life requiring multi-dosing like SR9009. trialforum
- Pre-cardio timing lore: Minority dose ~20–30 minutes before long sessions or place the daily dose on training mornings; others just pick a fixed clock time. Uncontrolled. anecdoteforum
- With vs without food: Community generally “either works”; no strong clinical food-effect package is what guides forums. Consistency > meal hacking in most logs. forum
- Capsules / tablets: Fixed 5 mg or 10 mg caps common on gray market; underfill and mislabel still apply. forum
- Potency / identity caveat: Without third-party testing, “I took 20 mg and felt nothing” can mean fake product, degraded liquid, or wrong molecule as easily as true non-response. forum
- Not injectable culture: Unlike SLU-PP-332 debates, modern cardarine talk is overwhelmingly oral; injectable GW is not a standard community route. forum
- Pre-cardio 30–45 min: 2026 protocol blogs still place the daily swallow before the session “so the volume is actually done.” Uncontrolled timing lore. forum
- Sublingual micro (minority): Occasional 2026 posts claim ~3 mg sublingual “helps enough” as a cancer-anxiety compromise. Not a trial arm. anecdote
- Rec chart: Often ~10–20 mg oral daily in performance forums — still research chem, not approved. forum
- Framing: All human figures below are historical trial exposures or community/anti-doping discussion ranges — not medical advice, not consumption guidance, not a protocol. forumtrial
- Trial — healthy men lipids (2 weeks): Placebo vs 2.5 mg vs 10 mg per day (n=24). trial
- Trial — overweight hepatic-fat / metabolic markers (2 weeks): ~10 mg/day (n=6 in the widely cited short study). trial
- Trial — dyslipidemic men kinetics: ~2.5 mg/day oral. trial
- Anti-doping literature dose pattern: Forensic/hair and doping papers summarize abuse at roughly 10–20 mg/day oral for ~6–8 weeks. trial
- Trial band (human): ~2.5–10 mg oral once daily appears across published Phase 1/2 metabolic and dyslipidemia work. trial
- Trial — larger low-HDL Phase 2 (12 weeks): 2.5 mg, 5.0 mg, or 10.0 mg once daily vs placebo (n≈268). HDL rise largest at 10 mg in the published report. trial
How it may feel
- Day 1 / first doses: Usually no stimulant buzz, no pump drug feel. Early notes (if any) are subtle breathing ease on easy cardio — many feel nothing the first few days. Other inspected accounts include no change at about two weeks, anxiety/overactivation by days 7–9, and lower energy after stopping a six-week course; these do not establish one felt window. forumanecdote
- Days 1–7: Subtle cardio economy or “same pace, less winded” is the early story when people notice anything; GI or mild headache can also appear early in minority logs. forumanecdote
- Weeks 1–2: Common first honest checkpoint for endurance assist — longer sessions or less RPE at familiar heart rates. Matches trial windows where lipid/fat-ox markers already moved. forumtrial
- Weeks 3–4: Frequent keep/stop decision point for risk-aware users (cancer discourse) vs “this is working for my cut cardio.” Non-responders start blaming product quality or underdose. forum
- Weeks 6–8: Modal full community “cycle” end for bodybuilding/endurance blocks; contest-prep users often pin cardio quality gains here while still deep in deficit. forum
- Weeks 8–12: Some extend toward the upper end of published Phase 2 exposure length; others refuse to stay that long given rodent tumor data. No consensus “safe” long block. forumtrial
- Post-cycle (days–weeks after stop): Subjective endurance often fades toward baseline while residual fitness from the extra training may stick. Not described as a classic rebound crash compound. anecdote
- No change by ~3–4 weeks: Threads usually re-check diet, sleep, base cardio, dose math, and gray-market purity/label strength before assuming the mechanism “doesn’t work.” Dose-escalation without product verification is common bad practice in the same threads. forum
- Weeks 4–6 “stopped working” lore: Some 2026 research writeups blame carnitine depletion rather than true tolerance and add L-carnitine next to GW. Uncontrolled. forum
- Clean feel: Non-androgenic “no acne, no shutdown, no buzz” is still why people run it on cuts — and why SARM shops keep mislabeling it. forum
Around the dose
- Clock: Forums describe morning use or placement roughly 30–45 minutes before cardio; this is reported timing, not measured onset or superiority. Historical trials used once-daily oral dosing. forumtrial
- Training: Zone-2 and incline walks appear in existing “cardio in a bottle” discussion; some notes contrast those sessions with no change during sedentary cuts. Reports cannot separate compound effects from training, expectancy or product identity. forum
- Food: Forum posts vary on taking it with or without food; the checked sources do not establish a clinically validated food-effect rule. forum
- Activity and stacks: Existing notes describe extra steps on dose days and L-carnitine alongside “weeks 4–6 fade” lore. These are community practices, not established timing rules or proof of depletion. forum
- Lipid versus endurance contexts: Existing notes mention 10 mg oral use for both HDL/TG bloodwork interest during SARM cuts and treadmill performance. These are different, often confounded goals; neither establishes a safe amount or cancels the tumor concern. forumtrial
- Avoid: Treating a SARM-shop bottle as proof it is a SARM, and treating short cycles as a cleared cancer file. forum
Cycles people discuss
- Modal community length: ~6–8 week oral blocks dominate bodybuilding and endurance-forum cycle charts. Matches anti-doping abuse-pattern summaries. forumtrial
- Shorter probes: ~4 weeks for “does cardio feel easier / do lipids move on labs” or cut-phase assist without a long continuous exposure. forum
- Longer runs: Some extend to ~8–12 weeks (aligned with the 12-week Phase 2 exposure ceiling in published lipid work); many risk-aware users refuse multi-month continuous use because carcinogenicity data were chronic-duration rodent studies. forumtrial
- Hard upper folklore: Recurring “no more than ~8–12 weeks” or “cap around 3 months then take time off” style rules (including older Guerrilla Chemist–style forum paraphrases) — community risk management, not a proven safety threshold. forum
- Time off: Off ≈ on length is the common heuristic (e.g. 8 weeks on / 8 weeks off); practices vary widely and have no clinical washout science for tumor risk. forum
- No solo PCT: Cardarine alone is not treated as HPTA-suppressive; classic SERM/AI PCT is discussed only when stacked with suppressive SARMs/AAS. forumtrial
- Re-runs: Seasonal race blocks, contest prep, or cut seasons are commonly described; serial multi-year human safety is unstudied. forum
- Bloodwork culture: Risk-aware logs sometimes pull lipids + liver enzymes pre/mid/post — lipids are the marker most likely to move in trial-like directions; enzymes are monitored more from stack confounders than a universal cardarine hepatotoxicity signal. forum
- Continuous low-dose “cruise” talk: Exists at the edges; most cancer-discourse threads push against open-ended daily use given absence of long-term human data and all-doses-positive rodent tumor abstracts. forum
Timing
- Forum / secondary assumption: ~12–24 hours (many write-ups round to ~24 h from QD trial design). Treat as inference, not a package-insert PK table. forum
- Practical timing: Fixed daily clock time is the norm; morning dosing is popular so daytime cardio sits under coverage. forum
- Not a multi-dose-per-day drug like SR9009: SR9009 community PK lore is short (split 3–4×/day); cardarine culture is QD (optional split only at higher totals). forum
- Feel type vs kinetics: Pathway/transcriptional metabolic story — not a 90-minute stimulant. Same-day “I feel it” is unreliable; multi-week cardio economy is the claimed arc. forum
- Washout for tested athletes: “I’m clear after X days” forum math is reckless — matrix (urine vs hair), dose history, and lab methods differ; banned means do not use if subject to testing. trialforum
- Downstream biology: PPARδ-driven gene programs can outlast peak plasma in principle (biology inference); users still report subjective endurance fading after stopping. trialanecdote
- Clinical half-life gap: Formal human t½ was not cleanly published in the widely circulated trial summaries; all human trials used once-daily oral dosing. trial
- Urine detection (anti-doping): Sulfone metabolites of GW1516 monitored by LC-MS/MS; published work reports detectability in urine up to ~40 days after a single oral 15 mg dose (GW0742 shorter in the same paper, ~20 days). trial
- Hair detection: GW501516 has been quantified in human hair segments of an abuser (e.g. tens of pg/mg in 2 cm segments in published forensic case work) — extends detection narrative beyond urine washout talk. trial
- WADA status: Prohibited at all times (hormone and metabolic modulator class; historically also framed under gene-doping concerns). Positive tests and sanctions documented across cycling, athletics, combat sports, etc. trial
More on what it is
- Street / fitness names: Cardarine and Endurobol dominate gray-market and forum talk; research codes GW501516, GW1516, GSK-516. forum
- Not a SARM: Does not bind the androgen receptor. Fitness shops and “SARM stacks” frequently mislabel it; mechanism is nuclear-receptor metabolic modulation, not selective anabolism. trialforum
- Why people care: Animal endurance and oxidative-metabolism data + early human lipid/fat-oxidation signals → “endurance / fat-ox research chem” culture. Marketed narrative is easier steady cardio and recomp assist, not a stimulant buzz. animalforum
- Evidence honesty: Short human lipid/metabolic exposures exist at low-mg daily doses; athletic “performance” claims rest mainly on animal endurance models + uncontrolled community logs — not modern sports RCTs. trialforum
- 2026 still not a SARM: Shops and r/SARMs still shelve it with ostarine. Mechanism is PPARδ, WADA files it at S4.4.1 metabolic modulators, not S1.2 anabolic agents. Enriching this card is not adding a new SARM. trialforum
- Cancer-math fight got louder: 2026 MPMD/Reddit posts argue naive “rats got hundreds of mg” copes fail allometric HED — lowest tumor arms map nearer common 10–20 mg logs, and tumors were reported at every tested dose. forumanimal
- Bro framing: Endurance / zone-2 “cardio in a bottle” lore (GW501516) — also the poster child for cancer-scare debates. forum
- What it is: Synthetic selective peroxisome proliferator-activated receptor delta (PPARδ / PPARβ/δ) agonist (C21H18F3NO3S2, ~453.5 g/mol). Invented in a Ligand Pharmaceuticals / GlaxoSmithKline collaboration (1990s; discovery published ~2001 PNAS). Never approved as a medicine. trial
- Mechanism (plain): High-affinity PPARδ agonism (literature often cites Ki / EC50 ~1 nM with >~1000-fold selectivity over PPARα and PPARγ) recruits coactivators (e.g. PGC-1α adjacency in rat work) and upregulates fatty-acid oxidation / energy-expenditure gene programs in muscle; fuel-preference story shifts toward lipid use. trialanimal
- Development stop: Completed Phase I/II-era metabolic/dyslipidemia work, then abandoned ~2007 after chronic rodent carcinogenicity showed multi-organ tumors. WADA later banned it and issued a rare explicit health warning to athletes. trialanimal
- Legal / status snapshot: Unapproved; WADA prohibited at all times (S4 metabolic modulators lineage; added ~2009, recategorized from gene-doping framing). AU has treated it as a high-control / poisonous-substance class item in public advisories. Sold only as “research chemical” online — not a legal dietary supplement. trial
Stacks
- Cardarine + Ostarine (MK-2866): Classic cut-phase pair — GW for cardio/fat-ox narrative, Ostarine for soft muscle retention in deficit. Community Ostarine often ~10–25 mg/day alongside GW ~10–20 mg/day for ~6–8 weeks (ranges vary; stack suppression risk is from the SARM, not GW). forum
- Cardarine + SR9009 (Stenabolic): Named “endurance / metabolic duo.” GW usually once daily; SR9009 community charts demand multi-dose splits (e.g. totals ~20–30 mg/day split many times) because of short-half-life lore and poor oral-F debates. Confounded dual attribution is the norm. forum
- Cardarine + Andarine (S4) ± Ostarine: Older cutting-stack templates (example forum layouts: S4 split high-mg totals + GW ~20 mg + optional SR9009). Vision sides from S4 dominate risk talk in those threads. forum
- Cardarine + LGD-4033 / other stronger SARMs: Less “beginner,” more recomp/cut with heavier suppression and lipid confounders; still seen in vendor “shred stack” marketing. forum
- Cardarine + MK-677: Sometimes paired so MK covers hunger/sleep/IGF narrative while GW covers cardio — appetite and water from MK can fight the cut. forum
- Cardarine + caffeine / yohimbine / clen-type stims: Fat-loss and HR confounds; stim sides can be blamed on or masked by the stack. forum
- Cardarine during trenbolone or other harsh AAS: PED-specific “keep my cardio” support role — does not cancel tren risks; adds unquantified long-term liability. forum
- Contest prep / race block context: Rarely solo — layered on aggressive diet, high steps, and other PEDs; fat-loss credit is shared. forum
- Vs SLU-PP-332 / exercise-mimetic class: Comparison shopping as next-gen “cardio mimetic”; different receptor class (ERR vs PPARδ) and different oral-vs-inject culture. No head-to-head human trial. forum
- Stack PCT note: PCT discussions track the suppressive agents in the stack; cardarine alone does not create a standard PCT requirement in forum doctrine. forum
- 2026 SARM-cycle lipid add-on: Low-dose GW next to LGD/ostarine for HDL talk — still risk-additive, still not a SARM itself. forum
- vs SLU-PP-332 / 915: Comparison shopping as the “next cardio mimetic” with a different (ERR) receptor and a different oral-F fight. No head-to-head human trial. forum
Access talk
- SARM-shop shelf, PPAR molecule: Sold as 5–10 mg RUO caps next to ostarine. That shelf is why people think it is a SARM. It is not. forum
- Research chem only: No legitimate endurance or HDL prescription path. “Dietary supplement” listings are the enforcement story, not QC. trialforum
- Identity / fill: Underfilled liquids and wrong-molecule bottles still explain “I felt nothing at 20 mg.” forum
- Do not add new SARMs to chase this job: This card is the PPAR already on the map. GW0742 is the same-door research analog, not a SARM either. forum
- Not a pharmacy lipid drug: Unapproved. WADA prohibited at all times (S4.4.1 metabolic modulators). Australia public advisories have treated GW1516 as a high-control / poisonous-substance class item. trial
Labs people mention
- Lipid panel is the actual human signal: Trial-like HDL up / TG and LDL down at ~2.5–10 mg is what risk-aware logs pull pre/mid/post. trialforum
- AST/ALT: Watched more because of stacked orals/SARMs than a unique GW hepatotoxin fingerprint. forum
- Not a cancer screen: There is no community lab that clears the rodent tumor file. Scanning lymph nodes after a cut is anxiety, not surveillance. forum
- HDL on a SARM stack: If HDL is already crashed from LGD/RAD, do not read a GW add-on as “lipids fixed.” forum
Storage notes
- No mix instructions here: STUDresearch does not list reconstitution, diluent volumes, or syringe unit charts. People reconstitute many different ways and vial labels differ — that content creates more confusion than clarity. forum
- Storage (general talk only): Unopened research products are usually kept cool, dry, and away from light per the seller label. Anything after first use is product-specific — follow the label, not a universal forum SOP. forum
Watch for
- Human-equivalent dose debate (community): Optimistic forum math once claimed “rodents got the equivalent of hundreds of mg in humans” using naive mg/kg scaling of high arms. More careful allometric write-ups put human-equivalent of the lowest tumorigenic ~3 mg/kg rodent arm roughly in the ~30–45 mg/day ballpark for a ~70–80 kg adult — only a few-fold above common 10–20 mg recreational totals. Margin is contested; it is not “infinite headroom.” forumanimal
- Liver / GI (community): Minority reports of enzyme bumps, nausea, stomach discomfort, or loose stool; stacks, alcohol, oral SARMs, and diet often confound. Not a universal hepatotoxin signal like some orals, but labs appear in cautious protocols. forum
- Headache / nonspecific: Occasional headache, fatigue, mild dizziness, muscle aches — no single dominant AE fingerprint across logs. forumanecdote
- Blood pressure / HR talk: Occasional low-BP or odd cardio-feel anecdotes; less defined than stimulant stacks. anecdote
- Not HPTA-suppressive alone: Does not replace need for PCT when stacked with suppressive agents; also does not protect lipids from SARM/AAS damage just because trial GW raised HDL in clean settings. forumtrial
- 2026 hypochondria posts: r/ResearchCompounds-style logs after a summer 10–20 mg cut describe checking lymph nodes and googling lymphoma from a new freckle — the endurance was “third lung,” the hangover is the rat abstracts. forumanecdote
- HED is not a green light: 2026 writeups putting the lowest rodent tumor dose near ~10–40 mg human-equivalent are the counter to “I only run 10 mg so I’m fine.” There is still no human carcinogenicity epidemiology. forumanimal
- Carcinogenicity (rodent, primary risk story): GSK-era 104-week daily oral carcinogenicity studies in rats (Geiger et al., 2009 SOT abstract) and mice (Newsholme et al., 2009 SOT abstract) reported widespread neoplasms / multi-organ tumors. Peer-reviewed full papers were not the main public source — abstracts + secondary citations drive the record. Development was stopped. animaltrial
- All doses / no clean NOAEL for tumors: Summaries of those bioassays state tumors appeared at every tested dose level, including the lowest (~3 mg/kg/day class figures widely repeated for both species). Absence of a clear no-tumor dose is why regulators and WADA treat the signal as disqualifying for chronic human use. animal
- Duration mismatch: Rodent cancer bioassays were essentially lifelong continuous dosing (~2 years). Human trials were weeks (often 2; Phase 2 up to 12). Short clean human windows do not clear multi-year or repeated-cycle risk. trialanimal
- Mechanism concern: PPARδ activation itself is implicated in pro- and anti-tumor literature depending on model; a 2018 colitis-associated colorectal cancer mouse paper reported GW501516 enhanced tumor growth via inflammation / GLUT1 / SLC1A5 pathways. Signal is not a single tidy story. animal
- WADA health alert: In 2013 WADA took the rare step of warning athletes that clinical approval has not and will not be given, citing serious health risk — not only a “you will test positive” notice. trial
- Human short-term trial AE picture: Published low-mg, multi-week metabolic studies generally reported good short-term tolerability without a dramatic AE cluster — but samples were small, durations short, and endpoints were not long-term oncology surveillance. trial
- Not FDA/EMA approved: No legal therapeutic product for endurance, fat loss, or lipids. Marketing as a dietary supplement is not a legitimate pathway in major jurisdictions (USADA notes reporting of such sites to FDA). trial
- Jurisdiction extremes: Australia public materials have classified GW1516 as a high-control / poisonous substance class item in advisories — legal risk beyond sport bans. trial
- Risk-framing honesty: Community split between “short cycles at 10 mg are fine, rats got mega-doses for life” vs “no NOAEL + thin human long-term data = unacceptable.” Neither camp has human carcinogenicity epidemiology. Sparse-honesty requires stating that gap. forumtrial
- Cancer caution (preclinical): Long-term rodent programs reported tumors across tested dose bands — a core reason many treat Cardarine as high-risk research chem despite lipid/endurance lore. animal
- Why serious people flinch: Rodent tumor findings at research doses keep coming up whenever someone posts a “just run 10 mg” stack. animal
- WADA / tested sport: Still prohibited at all times. Hair and ~40-day urine metabolite stories did not get friendlier. trial
- Pregnancy / unknown populations: No safe-use dataset; irrelevant for research-only framing but forums sometimes ignore this. trial
